I am terrified that my worst nightmare could come true and Donny replace us in the playoffs!

Good directors?

Barry Taylor? okay.....

 

RE:No worries..

Are you going to the Gilroyd club next Wed?????

 

catch 22 mate.

If we fail to get promoted theres a chance half the squad will walk.

If we do go up, we could get some right tonkins if we don't strenghten in certain areas.

But to be honest, I think everyone would rather take the 2nd option.

This donny rovers rivalry thats started I can give you my honest opinion.

Personally when you were in conference, I was routin for ya all the way, and was glad even when you gained promotion again and looking forward to another derby. But, the simple thing is, donny simply "over motivated" themselves (if you can say that) to an extent that no matter what we played like we weren't going to get anything. This has clearly showed, and now many fans are sick to death at the sight of you.

This really shouldn't have happened as we should have had the mentality to deal with that, but obviously not.

What we now have is a full on rivalry that has probably happened due to our players not motivating themselves at the same level as you.

But, as a diehard, some fans can't handle what has been happening in the fixtures against donny. And the game last week, probably de-motiavted half our fans into thinking we can't do this. But their wrong, we are perfectly capable, just that their are very few who believe it.

Confidence is the key.

 

RE: Ok then

Gordon Shephard, Patrick Cryne.....

If you don`t want em mate they are more than welcome on any Doncaster board of directors..

Not all directors are perfect i suppose, but come on.

 

RE: I see..

were your coming from and i do admit that certain statements that come out of the Rovers has made the whole club look big headed. We were very lucky that we had a fantastic supporter, who just happened to be a multi millionaire to get us out of the ****. To him i will be eternaly greatful.

 

RE:No worries..

No I have work things to do. ffs

 

RE:Never mind..

mate, i`ll just have tp put up with the biglil ff

 

Patrick Cryne is not a director...

of the football club anyway.

We'll see about old Shep won't we.He's done well on some things and can do better on others.

But no one will convince me that Barry Taylor should still be involved at BFC.

 

RE: Ok fair...

enough, Cryne isn`t a director, but you would also question Gordon Shephard???????????

Sorry mate but you have lost me completely on that one.

 

A lot of things have occured that have left

a minimum of a bad taste in the mouth. Couple that with the "pricing policy" and it remains to be seen what his long term effect will be, although he seems adept at getting the club back on an even keel(but still, so far at the rate that Peter Ridsdale forecast)

 

RE:Never mind..

All the best with that. Don't spill his pint.

 

RE: Ok matey..

I hear where your coming from.

Prices have gone up so debt comes down.

The even keel thing is linked to the gate pricing.

And Peter Ridsdale should not ever be let onto another board of directors as long has he lives. He`s probably one of the reasons you owe as much as you do.

 

RE:It`s his first round.

Don`t tell him thoughff I wouldn`t dream of spilling it, i can`t run that quick anymore

 

RE: would be but...

Why do teams above them have to go on a "disastrous run"?

Donny have 2 games in hand in the 2 sides above them - if they won those they'd be above those 2 and in 7th.

 

No he's not...

Our debt at the minute is not a clear situation.

We entered administration with long term mortgage debt and short term debt of no more than £3m. The actual amount that triggered administration was £250k (or lack of)

We were then "rescued" by Peter Doyle. He apparently borrowed money against the land assets to pay for the club and settle teh admin debts and the running costs. This was borrowed from a group calling themselves "The Sterling Consortium". Not good people toborrow from and as I recall it had to be repaid in full within twelve months. Total loan approx £5m.

When it became apparent that PD could not carry the club forward and after Shaun Lewis had not been able toraise enough money to carry on, Patrick Cryne and Peter Ridsdale joined forces to save the club again. Essentially, Cryne stumped up the cash and sold the footballing side to Ridsdale for £1,although I have been told that Ridsdale lost a substantial amount of money on the deal in the end.

Peter Ridsdale forcast losses over the next three seasons of £3m, £2m and £1m. It is not clear what is causing these losses and one can only assume that certain monies are being paid back (no problem with that)

Peter Ridsdale's first season in charge resulted in a loss of £3.5m. He was removed at Christmas 2004, after it was made known that the mony had been spent and more was required. The story on this one is conflicting shall I say...

Gordon Shepherd took over as chairman, with his son and Barry Taylor on the board...

 

RE: No he's not...

So you think 1/2 a million over the projected losses is good forecasting do you? That is about 16%.

Also the figures for the year with the projected losses of £2m have yet to be released. If these are better than forecast then this disproves your wayward beliefs that everything was completely accurate from previous forecasts.

What is wrong then with the current regime in charge down there? They seem to me to be doing a decent job and have supported the manager in his quest to better the team and improve the squad.

Do you not appreciate this?

Finally appointing Duncan Shepherd the Chairman's son seemed a sensible decision as he is a solicitor and football can be a minefield, better to have representation on our side than against us wouldnt you say?

So in essence we have the money man in Patrick, the experienced business man in Gordon and a solictor in Duncan with Barry Taylors contacts within the FA. Doesnt seem a bad mix to me.

Do you actually attend games or is your sole purpose to harp on about things that none of us know the full facts of?

Let them get on with improving the finances and the team and let us support the football side of things as this to most fans is what is most important.

 

RE:I was going..

 

RE:I was going..

Bugger pressed the wrong keyff

i was going to respond but looks like my thunder has been stolen, well said Mr Tykeman(Y)

 

look...

take what an average side in the current positions would "normally take" from now until the end of the season.

For donny to overtak them, they would probably have to lose only 2/3 games and win most of others.

The teams above them would have to drop points along the way too.

Just go and question someone else.

If anyone has an opinion you always get one that says

"how do you work that out"
"why's that then"
"prove it"

its like working for the government, you wipe your @rse and you have to prove why you needed to and how many sheets you have used and then get someone to authorise it. geeze

 

RE: No he's not...

At no point did I say that Shep is not doing a good job. I said that he is getting some things right and others wrong in my opinion.

As for Peter Ridsdale element of the post, MewsRover stated something that I believe to be incorrect. So I put forward a different side of the coin. The reasons for being 500k over forcast are not clear and have never been explained by either party. Peter Ridsdale put them down to "significant" one off costs,and the club was on course to meet the second year forecast. We all know that things were not exactly clear when Doyle sold the club on...

Let's see what the figures are. If they are better than a £2m loss, it does not mean Ridsdale was wrong, but credits Shepherd for his financial stewardship and events on the field exceeding expectations (eg getting further than budgeted in FA Cup)

They have backed the manager as far as we can tell. The pricing policy is quite frankly piss poor and to expect people to pay a minimum of £20 to see Colchester is daylight robbery IMHO. More needs to be done to attract people to Oakwell rather than milk the 6-7000 who will come,come what may.

Did I say ANYWHERE that appointing Dincasn Shepherd was NOT a good move? No. As much as you believe I believe what I want, so do you.

As for Barry Taylor, I cannot understand why he is involved. His attitude towards fans is disgraceful and as far as I can tell, his contacts stretch to the FA Ticket Office.

Yes, I do attend games. Season ticket holder and away when I can. I "harp on" about finances and the running of the club as it is pretty important at the end of the day and just trusting people to get it right got us in a mess last time. No-one even dreamt that we would end up in administration and never questioned the financial state of things. We should be more aware of this side of things than ever before.