I hate main dealers

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  1. Farnham_Red

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    Type of milege definitely has an impact

    lots of stop start city driving much worse than motorway cruising

    To be honest I dont trust the 20000 mile service interval either - and am thinking to get at least an oil change at 10 in my pug diesel

    I did read somewhere that the service on the 407 is also determined by engine revolutions but the counter in mine is do far just counting down
    miles so I dont know if I believe it
     
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    Has tha tried getting parts from places like GSF or other online sites?</p>

    Main dealer wanted &pound;600+ to do mi timing belt (not including pulleys, tensioners etc). </p>

    I got the entire kit done at a local garage for &pound;245, plus the auxillery belt changed an all.
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    Perrys spun me a similar tale

    when my car was recalled by the manufacturer for something fitting to the suspension. When I went to collect it and started it up, the engine management light came on - but of course, Perry's denied having been anywhere near the engine compartment.

    Hence my reluctance to purchase a super reds shirt advertising their name on the back...
     
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    The problem with tyres.

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    Most vehicle manufacturers now recomend tyres be changed at 3mm.</p>

    The performance of tyres also deteriates quite badly when you get below 3mm. Grip, stopping distances and wet weather performance are particularly affected.</p>

    The legal minimum of 1.6mm is a poor minimum standard and it would scare the **** out of most people if they looked at test data.</p>

    Some garages I visit in Leeds have charts up on the wall showing how tyre performence changes as a tyre wears.</p>

    It does make sence to change tyre at 3mm on safety grounds alone. </p>

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    20000 miles service intervals are not a problem. Modern fully synthetic oils are a massive improvement on the old mineral oils.</p>

    Tests by Mack trucks using Amsoil fully synthetic showed no engine wear after 450,000 Km.
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    The oil of an engine is its life blood. Change the oil and filter when the manufacturer says so and you should have many miles of trouble free motoring. Don't forget to change the air filter though and don't use cheap oil.
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    I think the dealer would be concerned about wear on the brake pads and discs from heavy town driving. Some quck fit garages would check these for you for free. I would take the car back to the dealer and ask them to change the service interval back to 20000 miles. If they refuse phone trading standards and seek their advice.
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    When I became an apprentice mechanic in 1966 oil changes were often carried out every 3000 miles and you changed the oil for Winter or Summer use.</p>

    I'm not that familiar with the Pug but it's not engine revs which determine the oil change interval, it's a bit more involved than that. </p>

    The OBC normally records the number of stop-start cycles, the engine temperature, and how many hours the engine is operating. From those figures the time to change the oil is calculated.
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    Very true

    Most of the main tyre characteristics (wet/dry grip, road noise, fuel economy, cat squashing ability...) can be affected by gradual wear, as you'd probably expect in fact.

    Although Supertyke reckoned they said they were illegal when they weren't, which is a different thing entirely to a recommendation.
     
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    RE: The problem with tyres.

    Thats true but mine had been in for a service and the main dealer said it needed 2 new tyres I said it did'nt so they went back and checked again and said the mechanic may have been a bit over enthusiastic and to bring it back after about another 3k miles, I got it cheked again at my independent tyre pace and finally ended up getting them don 8k miles after.Over enthusiastic my arse!
     

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