I know i go on about them all the time

Hmmm. Look at me I'm so ironic I like Neil Diamond/Tony Bennett/Barry Manilow.

It's all so contrived it's become a cliche of itself.

 

I just think Glastonbury is *****. I've posted on here about things I like or BFC players I rate and people have disagreed with me. We live in a world where everyone wants to voice their opinion positive or negative.

http://bbs.barnsleyfc.org.uk/showthread.php?212004-A-Positive-Post-From-Me&highlight=Conan

 

The majority of music that the majority of people think they love, they think they've chosen for themselves. But they haven't. Someone has chosen it for them. That's usually the person who chooses the playlist on the radio, be that Radio 1, or Virgin, or Radio 2, or Radio 3, or XFM. You might not hear it from this source directly, you might hear it through a friend, who has heard it on Radio 1, or Radio 2, or XFM. The reason it's chosen is to make money for someone, somewhere. That's the record label. That's not to say that these people always make bad choices. Arcade Fire are a perfectly nice band. But I bet a pound to a penny that there are at least 1000 bands out there that you would like more, if you had a chance to hear them.

If you like a band who is headlining Glastonbury, you like mainstream, middle of the road music, controlled by the record industry. To argue otherwise is pie in the sky. That doesn't mean it's the only music you like, but you really should give yourself the chance to hear something different.

Because something is marketed to you as independent and leftfield, it doesn't mean it is. It's just marketed that way. You want to open up a new world that could really change your life? Go here:

http://www.indietracks.co.uk/

 

I've been. It's corporate. It is Gally, there's no other word to describe it. It's about money and nothing else and you've been conned.

On the John Peel stage tonight were Kaiser Chiefs. The lead singer of which has spent the last 12 months as a judge on X Factor. I can't even begin to describe what is wrong with that.

When that is happening, any argument you put forward to the contrary is just you kidding yourself. Actually, it probably isn't. I don't think you're disingenuous in any way. I think you're genuine and sincere. Unfortunately, I also know you're wrong.

You'll accuse me of thinking I'm superior, of being condescending and patronising, and it certainly looks that way. Take a poll and you'll win hands down. And that's sort of the point. It's a mainstream, corporate, populist event, like Nandos or a Tory coalition.

Jesus Christ. I've either drunk way too much or nowhere near enough. Apologies, ignore me, it's usually best.

 

Chiefs are on at Donny tonight busy weekend for them

 

FAO ark104 and Gally

Please ignore anything I wrote last night. The drunk lock on my computer appears to have broken. Apologies. Now to check my browser history and hope I haven't bought another yacht.

 

I have to agree about Glastonbury I went for about 15 years and loved it but just got less and less good and more and more commercial. Now it's full of merchant bankers called Jeremy having a cwazzzzyyy weekend. Latitude is good. Green Man even better. To be honest I prefer things like the Number 6 Festival in Portmerion or Why Not in Derbyshire. Was offered free tickets to Glastonbury this time and turned them down.


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Arcade fire were immense last night, saw jimi Goodwin on the park stage too and he was brilliant

Going to see arcade fire in Hyde park on Thursday, can't wait!

 

Ha ha, no worries Jay. I was about to launch in to an impassioned defence but saw this post.

For the record (bdum tsh) Arcade Fire did start out as one of those small bands. I can't remember how I first heard of them, but I had their first EP before Funeral came out. They''ve gone massive since but IMHO it's cos it's genuinely deserved. And to be fair I'm normally one of those who spend all their time telling everyone to like a band andwhen they do I stop liking them for being too mainstream.

My favourite festival at the moment is Tramlines in Sheffield. Bands virtually no-one has heard of playing weird pop up venues (so long as you avoid Devonshire Green). Can't go this year though cos it's clashed with our holiday.

There you go, a semi-impassioned defence.

 

Seriously, you need to get over yourself. If you enjoy undiscovered bands that nobody has heard of, that great. But most undiscovered bands are unknown because they're not good enough. FACT. you can trawl through loads of independent ***** before you find something worthwhile. There's a massive swathe of music that is manufactured for a main stream audience, but it is easy listening, culturally without consequence, and plenty of people enjoy it (and if they didn't they wouldn't listen to it). Nobody is cheating themselves by listening to it. There are also still bands that are commercially successful who write their own stuff and present it in their own way, but as soon as they do so the Indie snobs turn their back and call them 'main stream' or 'commercial' or 'derivative' (as if basically everything isn't derivative).

Never been to Glastonbury, but it looks like fun. It might be commercial, but the success is a symptom of people going year after year and enjoying themselves. Yes there's a media gloss on it, and perhaps it's a bit sanitised to genuinely 'cool' - i can't see anyone in the crowds on telly that can't cope with that.

 

Music snobbery raises it's head on the bbs again I see. What is it about music that makes some people feel/act superior? People like what they like, it really is as simple as that.

 

Give me a break mate, I was pissed. I've apologised for it.

 

I'm not just referring to this thread. It happens most times that anyone mentions music. People trying to be cool is the most uncool thing.

 

I wasn't trying to be cool, I was just being an idiot. When I'm sober I know absolutely that I shouldn't post when I'm pissed. When I'm pissed it seems like a good idea.

I happen to like smaller bands on independent record labels. But I don't think for a minute that makes me cool. It's just what I like. That music is special to me. But I have no problem at all with what other people like. As you said, people like what they like. I'll sometimes try to promote the stuff I like because I think others may enjoy it too, but I don't think it's necessarily better, just what I like.

When we're drunk we say all sorts of *****. Fortunately for us all that usually just disappears in to the ether and is completely forgotten by morning. I made the mistake of logging on after having a skin full, so my insane ramblings are now set in stone for the rest of time. But there's no point debating them now because I'm the one who wrote them and I don't agree with them.