I see...

Cheers Gally.

The questions and frustrations from me come from a lack of transparency. Why haven't the club communicated this? If we're so rife with criminality why has it taken so long for any action to take place? What have the various FA reports found and recommended? Are the club/Trust challenging any of the reports or SYP requests? Also, not sure what the age of the supporters has to do with anything?

I saw Jacob having a go at them on Twitter before he got advice - didn't see any then. If he did out of order but you can't blame him for being frustrated at having to go through it. And you bother because you're trying to do best for supporters and I know everyone appreciates that.

None of the above is a go at you Gally, by the way.

 

We're criminalising and pushing away our next generation of supporters and that worries me. If they're causing so many problems then the club & SYP need to think of another way of dealing with it because whatever they're doing isn't exactly working according to your list of previous incidents.

 

Genius ,wait till the end of the game to kick them out, that will show them

 

Is this other way going down a division by any chance ,

 

Lack of stewarding is a joke in the North stand if they can't handle 3k plus they shouldn't sell the tickets, 20 lads spent the entire game in the camera gantry at the back, double standards been applied here don't care what anyone says.

 

Very true. I'm worried about our future with our current stewards. How many more away teams are going to get smoke canisters past stewards? It's not an isolated incident last night and the FA will have taken further note. If those carrying these were actually searched better we'd keep policing costs down.

 

Are you suggesting that was made up at Donny then?
A young girl with asthma problems was treated for breathing difficulties - that is an irrefutable fact.

 

Fair enough Gally. My initial point about lack of transparency and such still stands, though. If the club are having so much trouble with a small select group then it needs to be communicated.

On the other hand, if that small group aren't causing near as much trouble as SYP are claiming then they need to be challenged on it. Reading into it the club are getting **** from SYP - are other clubs getting the same agro? Are they right?

 

Noticed a Leicester fan in twitter put something on the lines of... Barnsley away ale under stand sit where you want and smoke bombs. Think we're an easy target.

 

btt.

 

So it as been mentioned

 

This is clearly a divisive issue and one can understand the varying perspectives to a degree. As a yound lad watching football in the 70s and generally throughout the early 80s the minorities idea of fun was to throw toilet rolls; ticker tape, bricks, spanners (regularly at bradford if i recall) and coins. The 90s generally saw a mass reduction in such behaviours as all seat stadia and better policing (inc banning orders and increased sentencing) came to the fore, with football in general becoming more family and media friendly. Now we have something new in the smoke cannister, a sinister introduction or a desire by the new generation of supporters to make for a more vibrant and colourful atmosphere? Of course our continental cousins have been employing such devices for decades and it appears to be accepted by the clubs and police. How many current sporting events especially finals are marked by a great pyrotechnic show leading to smoke billowing over the ground and into the stands? I personally miss the atmosphere of the 'olden days', without the missiles of course. Football watching has become so sterile and rigid over the past 15 years and the supporter has thus become accustomed to this. I think the smoke cannister is 'daft' and certainly a little juvenile, but as a middle aged man i really don't care either way and its rare occurrance certainly doesn't spoil my days entertainment.