I think I'm gonna start my own political party.

Coffee

Spat all over monitor!

 

Yes i have got more right to live and work here over a foreign migrant. I was born here. I have not travelled through 3 or more countrys to get asylum in the country i know will pamper me best.

 

Free movement goes both ways, and I'm happy with the situation.

As I've already discussed, I don't see what business it is of the government's who's in the country.

And I honestly don't think that it's unsustainable, having done research on the benefits to a country of economic migration.

 

HOW DARE YOU?

 

Did you happen to see the shelved Governement report that concluded that there has been no net econmic benefit from the latest wave of immigration? If it had been controlled then there would have been a benefit, the unbridled approach lead to all benefits being negated!

do you live in Barnsley?

 

SURELY THE FORCING OF PEOPLE INTO WORK ONLY APPLIES TO THE FREE LOADERS WHO CLAIM BENEFITS FOR DOING NOTHING IN RETURN? A PROGRAMME CAN EASILY BE SET UP WHEREBY VOLUNTEER WORK COUNTS TOWARDS THE SCHEME.

In my experience the government's criteria of what is useful voluntary work doesn't tally with my own, so I'm loath to accept that. However, I accept that were government to be devolved fully to local areas then this would be a workable scheme.

WHAT? LIKE YOUR HOUSE?

Well, I'm living here now so I'd obviously be pretty annoyed if I was kicked out for somebody else. But seeing as I'm working hard to pay the rent on it I don't see how that would happen. We have thousands of empty and unused houses in the country; it's better for everyone if they're lived in than lying empty and unused.

There's a difference between being entitled to a roof over your head and stopping people from coming into 'your' country just because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

DOES REHAB WORK ON THE WHOLE?

I'd argue that the current government favour punishment over rehabilitation. They just do it extraordinarily badly, and so end up satisfying neither those who want punishment nor those who want rehabilitation.

 

Racist!

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

 

Government research papers are rarely to be trusted. Like other research conducted into matters by groups which have a huge interest in the outcome they're not worth the paper they're written on.

And no, I live in Birmingham. What are the specific problems in Barnsley that I wouldn't have experienced either here or in the other places that I've lived?

 

YOU ADMIT TO PROBLEMS??

I wasn't suggesting there were unique problems here. I was wondering if you were here so that I could have the debate with you properly over a beer.

 

and thats a load of **** as well.

 

Hah, I spotted I'd done that as soon as I clicked 'submit'.

And sadly not; only up every now and again for matches.

 

How radical is that, making the unemployed do something useful for their handouts, and controlling immigration. Im afraid you will only upset the do gooders, and also the scroungers who collect everything, and contribute nothing. Prisoners actually being treat like the scum they are, you really will upset the PC brigade.</p>

However, count me in. Perhaps we can draw up some policies on druggies, and benefit scroungers etc. Crack on with it.</p>

 

Many countries for many centuries have treated prisoners like 'scum' and it didn't work and people still committed crimes.

So it's not really any good....unless you're a sadist who likes inflicting pain on people that is.

 

I don't agree with physically harming them

but really Acky, do you agree with them having luxury items like ps3style consolesand digital television?

 

so whats your opinion on radical clerics claiming asylum? ARe they not the governments business?

 

RE: I don't agrGiving them their own TV uses less resources and makes it easier to manage

If they are in their room watching tv instead of a communal hall watching tv they can reduce staffing levels and therefore costs.

Whats the problem with that?

 

Personally, I'd back any policy that means when residing at her majesty's pleasure, you should have to waive a huge amount of legal rights, mainly emroiled within human rights legislation.

You should not be able to dictate a diet based on religion, availability of facilities, access to Sky and all that kind of crap, access to any kind of leisure facilities should be denied. Claiming any kind of unearned income off the state without sweating a bit for it, should not happen Your sentence should not be reduced based on behaviour, it should be served without question. Sentences are determined by the crime and the suffering related to that crime. Someone beaten senseless for a wallet or mobile doesn't give a **** how polite someone might be in prison at a later date and it shows nothing but disrespect to the victims. If you behave badly, your sentence should be increased.

The problem is when people in the past have decided that someone spending most of thier time every day, in a cell with windows and only being allowed out for 3 set meals and exercise, is treating them like scum. Which is of course complete and utter bollo*ks. They're still being treated much better then most deserve.

 

Why do they have TV?

In the outside world where law obiding citizens live, not everybody has a TV and a fair few don't have digital TV or a games console. Why should people who have broken the law be given these luxury items and facilities as a reward?

 

Letting people out early or good behaviour is something i dont understand and never will

I was always under the impression that it was and should be the other way round. Time is ADDED for bad behaviour, not taken away for being 'good'

 

Is that how you turn criminals in to citizens then?

Or aren't we bothered about doing that?

Actually, don't answer that, I don't care, I don't want to debate it.

Something far more interesting. Are you a dad yet?