I upset Bristol fans last night..

I wasn't genuinely trying to explain myself. I was playing up to a gathered crowd. As I tend to do. For better or worse. I don't know if it's because I've experienced a lot of highs recently, but I'm feeling very ******* blue today. Nothing new. Up and down is how I'd describe myself 24/7. Always have been. It's a condition, innit? But dunt make it any easier. I'd love to be boring, normal and in the background. I really confuse myself at times. I have no idea why I thought that was a good idea yesterday. It's not that it isn't a decent little rant, but in today's brain, I'm not understanding why I felt the need to.

 

Go ******, I thought it was a class response, so don't beat yourself up about it.

 

I'm not. I'm just that way out at the minute. Can't be arsed with owt.

It'll pass.

 

I fear for thi when Hammill goes.

 

What if I told you, 100% that he's staying?

 

Might kiss thi, Whitey (in a manly way, of course).

But the way I imagine it is..... we pay him summat like 4K a week to the end of this season. Ben will have offered him 8K to stay next. Wednesday or Leeds will say:" He's worth 'evvin for 12K". Job sorted. 28, with a young family - no brainer.

Unless you know different?

 

Nothing to add. Most excellent post!

 

I don't, unfortunately. But there was a big rumour doing the rounds on twitter last night suggesting he's staying, and from a lad I wouldn't usually see making daft statements.

Imagine the boost we'd get hearing that news in a week or so's time?

 

8k a week,

Club house in Royston near Hecky ( its the new Cawthorne now ,)

Free Stall on new market at retirement

Supertyke to do all his admin

What's not to like?

 

Do I not like that!

 

Only thing I would disagree with what you're saying is the population of Barnsley!

Surely when basing any facts against the population you have to include the Metropolitan Borough & not just Barnsley as in the town centre??

The Metropolitan Borough of Barnsley measured 231,221 in 2011 which means only around 3-4% of the population supported the club last season - which makes grim reading!

Totally agree with all your other points however.

 

Don't forget BFC gans who come from outside Barnsley!......Bristol fans are the same as any other on any other forum....**** em Whitey!

 

It's not grim reading though is it? Only 2.7% of Sheffield follow Wednesday. So even if you include the so-called 'borough' we're better supported than most.

But I don't include the borough. I count the population of Barnsley, the town. Against the city/town of another club. It's fair to do so. I have no idea where this whole borough thing came from. Barnsley is a town. A small one. Maybe some intelligent person can explain what this borough thing means, where it came from etc?

Either way, I think we're well supported considering much, much context and circumstance. Can only think of Fleetwood and Burnley who get gates they shouldn't really get considering how small their towns are. But then, maybe Burnley has a borough? Dunno.



Patrick Cryne is an advocate of the same argument, he quotes the town population. Not the borough. So I'm in good company. Haha.

 

Ez tha got as much brass as him Whitey?

 

I have what money can't buy - my rugged good looks.

 

Burnley does have a (non metropolitan) borough, and its population is about 90,000. I think part of the problem is that metropolitan boroughs were designed for urban areas - so where I live, in Birmingham, the conurbation is made up of two cities and four metropolitan boroughs. There's a similar thing in Greater Manchester - two cities, again, and a handful of metropolitan boroughs making up the remainder of the area. They were formed around major cities by merging the kinds of smaller boroughs and districts that you still get in places like Burnley - I imagine that the country borough of Barnsley which existed prior to 1974 would have around the same population as Burnley if it were still in place.

It essentially decides who you pay your council tax to, and who collects your rubbish. But a blanket interpretation of what Barnsley or anywhere else is based on metropolitan boroughs won't generally work. I'm not an expert on the local geography of South Yorkshire, by any means, but I'd wager that the loyalties, particularly to football clubs, are very hazy when you get too far outside the actual town. A metropolitan borough created in 1974 as part of local government reorganisation is very different from a city that's been essentially incorporated for more than a hundred years (or, indeed, the old country borough, which would probably have made a lot more sense in terms of defining the settlement of Barnsley and its hinterland). Barnsley will have incorporated a lot of areas that historically identified with Sheffield, Leeds or Doncaster - in a similar way, places which everybody considers to be in Birmingham actually have their bins collected by Sandwell MBC.

Just realised that I've typed all that and actually haven't said anything interesting. In summary, I imagine that the potential fanbase for Barnsley football club is maybe a bit bigger than the population of the town, but nowhere near as big as the population of the metropolitan borough.

 

It interested me. Cheers pal.

 

Skint and rough as fook then?

 

I finally have something in common with Bristol City if their fans think you're a lovely person too

 

Places like Wurzbrough, Cudeth, Royston, Wumwell, Carrlton, Monk Bretton, Aversli - all classed as Barnsley villages arent they!?

But not included in the 90'000 you quote?