I'd like to see Nick Griffin on the BBC again as the...

The minimum wage is a great thing for some people. It hasn't done what it was meant to do though has it? It was meant to address poverty issues. It simply hasn't. The people that were living in poverty on low wages back in 1997 (often doing cash in hand work, off the record) are still there and sadly there are more generations behind them now. Some people working in supermarkets on tills or stacking shelves for big companies got decent payrises at the time which is great, but then they started shortening shifts to avoid paying tea breaks to recoup some of the loss.

The smaller businesses, the family businesses, 3-5 man operations, local sweet shops, hair salons etc were stung by it, those that didn't have the savvy and legal knowhow to get round the impact it would have, they suffered.

Damn right keep it, but policy needed to dig a little deeper to make sure it would actually reach its intended targets.

 

RE: ok

Personally I don't see any alternative. Reduce the inequalities in society. Unfortunately those in charge are the bosses who are quite happy to pay low wages cos it means more profits for them. And being really well off they can afford to avoid paying the tax to fund the unemployed.

 

Are they a couple of your ex's?

 

In mythology the Griffin is part lion, part bird. Last night Nick Griffin proved he's a complete ****.

 

RE: excellent

Will they both where wedding dresses or is one of them like a man and will wear a suit?

And do you get to watch them have sex?

 

RE: excellent

At least one is in a dress ( my friend) not sure what the other's wearing, and I've put a camera in the honeymoon suite. Youtube Monday morning.

 

My point was just that Labour brought it in and the Tories never would have. I believe that the same is true of civil partnerships.

I can't debate about the ins and outs of how successful it is because I haven't a ******* clue. I don't live in the real world you know.

 

My Son graduated last year in English

couldn't get the career path he wanted. </p>

Instead of sitting on his arse he works over 40 hours a week at minimum wage with unsocial hours (4-11 friday and saturday afternoons for a 22 year old)</p>

His attitude is that 'a **** job is better than no job'</p>

He's still looking and I'm sure that he'll get something else but until then ...</p>

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Also 'These people don't want to work in low paid horrible jobs. There's nothing wrong with that' I don't agree if that means that they have chosen not to work and be supported by the state.</p>

 

Has one of them had a stag do? nt

 

RE: My Son graduated last year in English

I don't mean they have been supported by the state, I mean they have found a better job. My point is that there is simply not enough people to take these low paid jobs. Your son is doing one of them now, but he's looking for something better. As are most people that are doing them. There are more low paid jobs than there are people on the dole, so how do you fill them?

 

No, a duck do. nt

 

RE: My Son graduated last year in English

You'd fill them in unpopular ways.</p>

Either allow more immigrants in to do those jobs or structure the benefits system to make it impossible for an able bodied, fit to work person to receive benefits when they won't take a job.</p>

The extreme difficulty with the second option is with for example a father with a family who would lose massive chumnks of his income in benefits if he took a job, as would currently happen. The smarter solution would be to try and judge each one on a case by case system to help him into work but ensure his take home pay doesn't suffer.</p>

It will also take a massive review of the tax system - as very simple example, why not atke everyone earning less than &pound;10k pa for example out of tax and NI altogether ?
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Sadly that's part of the society we've created, people now have unrealistic aspirations and aren't willing to start at the bottom and work up. People think they should start at the top now. 4 GCSE/O Levels used to be considered a high standard. It's now the equivalent of Zammo from Grange Hill and his CPVE. You need 6 A*s to be considered semi literate nowadays. But those with 6 A*'s think they going to be the next James Dyson or Branson.

They're not.

 

I'll bang on about it again

Instead of giving everyone 10k, just let married folk share their tax code.

That way dad gets to earn 12k tax free and mum stays home to keep the kids on the straight and narrow.


Jobs freed up as some low paid women give up work

. Incentive for benefits scroungers to actually work

incentive to get married therefore stable family life, lower crime, lower truancy greater academic achievement

Get rid of this working family tax credit sh!te

If one of you gets made redundant , the other gets a pay rise

AND it genuinely benefits the poorest in society becuase the wealthy are already maximising the tax allowances of both memebrs of a couple, whereas the poor don't have such a big opportunity to.

 

If one of you gets made redundant , the other gets a pay rise

But there's only one of you working cos mums at home keeping the kids on the straight and narrow? </p>

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