If Labour moves back to the centre it will be just the same as the Tories

No mate, NHS great idea

Answer me this then Donny - Corbyn made re-nationalisation one of his trump cards and LOST - so if it is such a great idea why didn't people vote for it -

 

there were no power cuts due to a labour government, the 74 strike was under ted heath as was the 72 strike, both strikes were for an improvement in wages, prior to 72 the miners were ranked 20 something in the working/blue collar classes , after the strike they were one of the highest, however by 1973 they had dropped once again down to 18th and it was this that sparked the 74 strike

the 72 strike was the first miners strike since 1926,and both the 72 and 74 strikes involved both the mines that were run under nationalisation as well as the countries private mines

ted heath called the 74 strike under the illusion that the country would back him, however, under typical tory governance not only the working class but also white collar workers had experienced pay freezes and attacks on benefits, so his master plan backfired

funny thing is, most pitmen will tell you ted heath was the only prime minister that ever paid them a decent wage..

 

corbyn and labour lost because of their wishy washy stance on europe, nothing more nothing less, their otherwise half decent ideas were ignored

 

I think you will find that the Japan railway went private in 1987, having debt of around 37 trillion yen - that is basically why it was privatised

 

Corbyn lost because he doesn't reflect the attitudes of the average Labour voter.

The average Labour voter is not so left wing - let's face it Corbyn's been around for years and nobody took any notice of him, because he obsessed upon matters that only left wingers obsess about.

When you stick him in charge, what do you expect?

There were too many policies costing too much money - it's dead easy spending other people's brass. Your average Labour voter knows all this, and secretly wishes ( I reckon) Labour could find another Blair.

 

the trouble is ,nationalised industries in the country are abused and this is carried out by people from the top to the bottom of the pecking order, theres far more accountability under private ownership whereas under nationalisation a lot of workers see a bottomless money pit..

disproportionate wages between the top and bottom happen under both guises and under investment happens under both too

nationalisation is the ideal scenario, where profits go back into and stay within the country but for some reason we seem to make a right pigs ear of it and i say this as a miner who worked under both systems, as an example , i was a dosco lh1300 driver , under nationalisation we gobbed worn and blunt cutter picks, under private ownership we took them out of the pit to the blacksmiths and they sharpened them, these cutter picks cost around 100 quid each.. i'd take half a dozen out with me to the blacksmiths and my deputy would book it in on my time sheet and i'd get fifty quid in my wage packet