If this doesn't worry you nothing will

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  1. Redarmy87

    Redarmy87 Well-Known Member

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    Nothing more Orwellian right now than the covid passport.
     
    Redarmy87, Jul 24, 2021
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    There’s a bit of a difference between designing a fitness app for people to voluntarily download ala Coach to 5k, MyFitnessPal etc. that rewards you for reaching fitness goals and China’s forced ‘re-education camps’ and asking people to dob debtors in. A healthy dose of skepticism is always prudent but that’s just an insane leap to put those two things together and treat everyone who doesn’t instantly panic as supporters of China.
     
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    Ye know what. I've changed my mind. You're right. I've had my jabs,. Once everyone has had the opportunity to be vaccinated I don't care if I happen to pass covid onto to anyone stupid enough not to protect themselves. They deserve all they get secure in the knowledge they haven't been injected with micro chips or suchlike.
     
    churtonred, Jul 24, 2021
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  4. Red

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    I've yet to hear a single, sensible argument against covid passports.

    If you get double jabbed you get one, if you're of a certain age or exempt you don't need one.

    What's everyone's beef with that?

    If you choose not to get jabbed when you can, then by choice you're deciding not to do activities that need a covid passport.
     
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    Granted the examples are two extremes. But control happens by degrees. Once you've got a way to measure citizen's behaviour you'll take the next tiny step. And in a way that people welcome each step.
     
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    Sadly, we now live in times that while purporting to support individuals and communities governments actually encroach on their rights. I have thought for several years now that at some point all new born babies will be micro-chipped at birth (or whatever technology supercedes microchips). I still think that is coming.
     
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    No, the government are deciding what you can and can’t do. Things that previously were basic freedoms. People used to have the power over their own freedoms and now they don’t. How do people not see a problem with that?
     
    Redarmy87, Jul 24, 2021
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    We'll end up like Logan's Run. The only reason this lot aren't already culling us at age 30 is because it takes several thousand of Us to fund the lifestyle of one of Them.
     
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    No need to ridicule is there.
     
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    We will, or something like it. I'm glad I'll be dead (hopefully) by then!!
     
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    What about seat belts? They were eventually enforced and no one bats an eyelid now.
     
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    Vance Packard in 1958 thought we might be controlled by microchips by the year 2000 – back then there were many advocates of this for ‘social control.’

    Never came about of course but what Packard knew was that to manipulate and control people you have to ‘invade the privacy of their minds.’ In the end we didn’t need to be forced to have an implant – we just glued our faces to a piece of glass. Every single detail of what you do is now recorded. As one bloke in Silicon Valley said. “We’re now writing the tunes – next we make them dance.”
     
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    Based on the title of the thread and the original post im now worried that i will soon turn into a zombie because i had cheese on toast earlier and i once saw a episode of the walking dead were a zombie bit into a block of cheese
     
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    Considering test and trace cost £37 billion and is still rubbish I can’t imagine how bad an app they’re spending £5 million on will be lol
     
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    A seat belt is temporary for the journey. An enforced vaccination is a permanent medical procedure. If you don't see the difference then I give up
     
    SuperTyke, Jul 24, 2021
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    There is nothing more Orwellian right now than the Smart Phone in your pocket & Google ;-)
     
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    They’re also making those who live in flats or complexes log photos of their windows taped up and closed so they don’t interact with people on other balconies.

    At the same time as telling them that ‘today is not a day for engaging with people you meet in the street’. They also just admitted to giving 800,000 people the vaccine knowing that the risks significantly outweigh the benefits.

    Being on Covid Passports.
     
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    1) Whilst it’s likely the vaccine will prove to be safe, it won’t be given that official status until 2023 will it? It’s got temporary approval at the moment due to the national/global emergency

    2) Studies and experts are admitting the risks to the younger demographic are greater than the benefits

    3) One vaccine was pulled after launch for a certain age group due to potential risks. Some people in that age group, in their rush to get the vaccine, have had the one with potential risks

    4) It’s a personal choice whether you want to inject something that has hundreds of thousands of yellow flags raised. People should be encouraged to get the vaccine, but they shouldn’t be coerced in to it or discriminated against if they choose not to have it

    5) It’s another kick in the teeth to businesses, especially hospitality, that can’t afford this level of legislation and additional checks (this one could go on for multi-layers but this is the headline).

    You might disagree with all the above. You might rubbish them as points. But to say you ‘haven’t seen a single valid point’ on this subject feels, to me at least, as a bit narrow minded without being open to how some people might feel.

    Yours,

    Double Vaccinated Loko
     
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    Trust me. I'm using the height of restraint.
     
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    Edited. I'll stick to the height of restraint.
     
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