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  1. Gue

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    RE: Or at least that's your perception. nt

    No, there are simply more articles written, and there are examples that can clearly be pointed to as made up.

    Example from Daily Express:

    Wye Aye Pet!

    Geordies were staggered to discover that they were no longer allowed to address people as ‘pet’ or ‘love’ for fear of their language causing offence.

    Political correctness meant that such Geordie dialect, which was famed in the TV show ‘Auf Wiedersehen, Pet’, was banned by Newcastle City Council.

    Thousands of Council workers were sent on "equality and diversity" courses to be told how to address each other with dignity and respect.

    It is not the first local authority in Britain to tell its staff that words like "love", "darling" and "sweetheart" are inappropriate for women. But it may be the only one ruling out the use of some of the local expressions, for fear of causing offence.

    Tory MP for the North-East Martin Callanan said the move was "political correctness gone mad".
    He added, "They are traditional North-east terms of affection. I can't believe anyone would be offended by them. Surely the council has more important things to worry about than its staff using friendly terms. "

    Retired teacher Peter Arnold, who is chairman of the Northumbrian Language Society, said he supported the council's desire to promote diversity. But he added: "I am horrified that these words are to be banned.

    "People have been speaking Northumbrian in this part of the world for 1,400 years uninterrupted. "
     
  2. *Windy

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    So that tells you that they're "********"

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    ...and not simply that there is a problem to report? (The silly bits notwithstanding.)</p>
     
  3. Terry Nutkins

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    Just on the basis that

    We have to pay the company handling the money to process payments i.e Post Office, CO OP etc and it takes us longer to get the payment than if its paid direct.</p>

    Also pre payment customer ring customer services more than Direct Debit or quarterly payers which means we have to employ more staff to answer the calls.</p>
     
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    I'll probably get arrested now !!
     
  5. Gue

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    RE: Son that tells you that they're "********"

    It's completely fictitious, the only shred of truth in it was that council staff have had equality and diversity awareness training. Every other thing mentioned was false.

    The reason newspapers print articles like this is that it sells papers, people like to have their suspicions 'confirmed'. That's all it proves.
     
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    Hi Terry

    Good answer. I still think the practice is wrong. The fact that it costs the company more to service a pre payment meter is not the fault of the consumer and I do not believe that charge should be passed on. It should be absorbed by the company. It costs energy companies more to provide their services to out of the way villages compared to big cities but, rightly, everyone is charged the same. For example, supplying Cawthorne with gas in the 1980s cost £millions to build the infrastructure but once they got their gas they paid the same as everyone else. Installing and servicing pre payment meters may cost more but the price of the energy should still be the same.

    I understand that some people are in debt to energy suppliers and pre payment meters are a way to stop these people from incurring more debt and, I believe, they are used as a way to repay that debt, but I see no reason why their future energy demands should cost them more.

    I understand your analogy with the mobile phone but I do not believe mobile phones can be viewed upon as the same as gas and electricity. A mobile phone is a luxury where as gas and electricity are necessities.
     
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    I didn't mean those silly articles.

    </p>

    I mean the volume of reporting on positive discrimination tells you that it's ********? Whereas the far lower volume on racism(as you point out) actually means that there's more of it?</p>
     
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    Fair points, I didn't think of those.
     
  9. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    Are gas and electricity necessities though? Sure a percentage of the gas and electricity that we use is necessary but is the rest not a luxury?

    Any idea how much of the average person's energy bill is from necessary use that is essential for their life and how much of it is from powering a TV, computer, radio etc? Or even from choosing to have the heating on when wearing a jumper would suffice just as easily or having lights on during the day.

    I have no idea personally and wouldn't expect you to either but maybe Terry or somebody may know.
     
  10. Gue

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    RE: I didn't mean those silly articles.

    That's not what I'm saying and you know it.

    The volume doesn't tell you it's ********, what I'm saying is that there is a large volume of articles (true and fictitious) that fill the tabloids. Racist incidents (true and fictitious) are not reported as widely. The weighting doesn't tell you how much of it happens, it merely tells you the agenda of the media outlets. Any made-up reporting is damaging, but in my experience there is more sensationalism relating to 'political correctness' and 'positive discrimination'.
     
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    That's a good point.

    Everyone who wastes energy in this country effectively puts up the price for everyone else. So Windy and Owen if your listening, think on the next time you have a pointless argument, the electricity your computer is using is make a poor person go cold at night.
     
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    So the fact that there are a lot of reports about something....

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    ...means that there's weighting and political agenda afoot rather than just that there's a lot of it about? Is that usually the case or just when it suits? </p>

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    The BBS clique

    more mysterious than Area 51 and more elusiveWindy when he's losing a point,does it or doesn't it exist? </p>
     
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    RE: The BBS clique

    Windy Windy Windy Windy Windy</p>

    Is this you &quot;going toe to toe&quot; again? </p>
     
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    Agree

    Political correctness and race relations is a self-perpetuating industry that does absolutely **** all and at great expense too. It's a form of cultural Marxism which I despise with my entire being.

    Can anyone explain why our council taxes pay for:

    1. Equality & Diversity Officers
    2. Outreach workers
    3. Traffic Wardens
    4. Citizen Focus trainers
    5. Health & Safety Advisors
    6. Diverse Community Liasion officers

    I was really hoping they'd all decide to go on strike this week so they'd all realise that the country functions very well without them. Rant over.
     
  16. Man

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    No one will agree with me but

    Since energy companies actually dig up the oil/gas and make the electricity shouldn't they be allowed to charge what they want for their work? If the price is too high and people can't afford it, they won't sell any and so will have to lower their prices.

    Yes the market can be ***** but it's still the least worst way of exchanging goods and deciding on prices. I don't understand why when the workers want their reward (wages) there's always the appeal to "social need", but when the entrepeneurs and inventors want their reward (profits) they're just accused of greed and selfishness.
     
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    The Royal Family

    Set of disfunctional parsites the lot of them, shamefull wast of tax payers money.
     

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