If you could vote on the Scottish debate which way would you vote?

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  1. Redstar

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    You've got UKIP?
     
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    No one at present is English or Scottish if you are using the passport for this...we are all British.
     
  3. Tyk

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    And finally, we get to the true core of the Yes vote. It's fuelled by dislike, divisiveness and petty xenophobia like this - it's just that no-one has the bottle to say that.
     
  4. Dragon Tyke

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    no

    they are too dumbass to look after themselves, that's why I came..kinda missionary work you see. They are now walking upright and wearing shoes.
     
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    Really TM? And wouldn't you say that this Government has displayed dislike, divisiveness and petty xenophobia towards the Scots for years.

    A right bit of pot and kettle here.
     
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    Re: no


    Well we left getting looked after to the Torries and guess what? I don't think they made a very good job of it. So what goes around comes around and they at this moment are absolutely sh1tting themselves about the prospect of announcing to Betty and the rest of the UK that we have actually left. LOL

    This all could work in you guys favour. Political unrest could come about i England and a great chance to oust that lot from number 10. That is if you have the bottle to stand up to them and fight for equality.
     
  7. Dragon Tyke

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    I believe in a union of sorts Ian

    but have to agree that the Scots Welsh and Irish should have a far better say in how things are run in their homelands. Westminster shits on all outside of the 'Home Counties' its not just the Scots, Welsh and Irish that get a raw deal. Most of the midlands and north of England, the west country all get **** on. But the biggest set of villains is the EEC... that's who truly rule us all right now. The yes vote may well be implemented next week Ian and I hope it works out well for you all ... no really, I do. But you are going to find out just how much its Europe that is shafting you mostly.
     
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    If Scotland go, all the best to 'em, but I can't see them lasting long. They are pinning all their hopes on an oil supply that is dwindling, and half of it will probably end up ours anyway! The oil belongs to britain, not scotland.

    So pinning an entire country's hopes on a non-renewable source, that is running out fast, sounds very smart, let's do it, what can possibly go wrong...

    But, of course, it's the no politicians that are not revealing all the facts, whereas the yes men are all totally genuine, salt of the earth guys, who are all perfect. Obviously.
     
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    What if the Shetlands go for independence from Scotland, or other isles near oil supplies try the same?
     
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    How will that change? TV and newspapers will cover what they think their customers have an interest in. We get Spanish and German football amongst others - so I don't see why they still won't cover Scottish football. Would hopefully put an end to the interests of Rangers and Celtic joining the English leagues though!
     
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    If I lived in Scotland I think I'd be voting "Yes", however I sincerely hope that they vote "No" because if they leave I think England would be worse off, more likelihood of Conservative government and the systematic destruction of the NHS.
    We will strongly consider moving to Scotland if they go independent.
     
  12. Ext

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    Scotland will be a banana republic if it goes indy.

    Declining oil revenues, no central bank and commitments to higher public spending than the rest of the UK. Salmond downplays genuine concerns by accusing his opponents of being 'negative' - he's doing a massive disservice to the Scots for his own vanity.
     
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    No idea. Definitely not at work, though. Honest.
    If the leaders of all three major political parties want Scotland to stay in the union, there's only one way to vote...
     
  14. Tek

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    Keeping the Incompetence(labour) vs the Toffs(Condems) choice in Westminster

    ...out of the argument. I am a No person for Economic reasons. I do however, think the current economic system is irreparable in the long term and needs to be replaced (no idea what with). What I do know is if we carry on as we are doing we will end up with a Victorian structured society OR major civil insurrection and upheaval throughout Europe.

    Pure socialism doesn't work as human beings are competitive. Equally distribute all the wealth and in a month you would have millionaires and paupers as we have now. Unfettered capitalism is equally unpalatable as no fortune has ever been made without some immoral or illegal act behind it.
    Conservatives (even Thatcher) have(had) the right idea in that a strong economy means greater wealth and funds to help the genuinely sick and needy in society. Unfortunately, simply making the economy strong doesn't make the latter happen without legislating to make it so. As we have seen with the Eton boys they believe they have a genuine entitlement and right to keep what they have robbed from the people. There is little sign of sharing the wealth as the gap between exec pay and the mean average wage is as high now as it was in Victorian times
     
  15. arabian_ian

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    Eh? 50% of Scottish people do not wish to continue being the whipping boys for the Westminster elite and are voting to opt out of this corrupt system we live in. Hopefully the undecided see sense and vote yes.
     
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    Re: Keeping the Incompetence(labour) vs the Toffs(Condems) choice in Westminster

    I liked the old mixed economy, where capitalism is allowed freedom, but the basics, health, education, the utilities etc are state owned.
     
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    Re: Keeping the Incompetence(labour) vs the Toffs(Condems) choice in Westminster

    That is the way. Capitalism does need some regulation though to stop the sharks. Never understood privatisation of public services where the only source of income is from we, the taxpayers via either central Government taxes or rates. Surely in that case profits go to shareholders and CEOs rather than ploughed back
     
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    Re: Keeping the Incompetence(labour) vs the Toffs(Condems) choice in Westminster

    Privatisation as under Thatcher was an idealogical exercise and a way to carry on reducing the strength of the unions, combined with the manic abandonment of heavy labour intensive industries. It had no basis in providing a better service/product.
     
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    Which is precisely what I meant. If Cameron and Clegg think the way to go is stay in the UK, you can't get out quick enough.
     
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    Me too
     

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