If you had to choose ....... Struber - Stay up

.............. ‘Don't get attached to players or coaches at Barnsley, its futile’.

Every player or coach has a price.
However - the revolving door system that we had under Patrick isn’t going to happen under these owners.
A more solid base will be built.
It has to - because without it there will be no long term success.

 

Stay up.

 

You mean like your bestie Hecky was important to the club, and Stendel too?

I’m not sure any of us want Struber to be replaced.

The majority seem to agree, though, that our championship status is, on balance, the more important of the two things.

The way our club is run - which I’m not criticising here, it is financially stable and viable, more than most can claim - means we can’t grow attached to players or coaches. Even the head coach. They are cogs in a machine and every year the strongest and most valuable cogs will be sold replaced with some cheaper ones, maybe more of them, to ensure the club continues to function. I’m not sure any of us like it but we have to grudgingly accept it.

Struber is a good head coach. He’s my first choice to be our head coach, obviously. But if we go down, I don’t see it likely.

If we do stay up, and Watford (or A N Other club) offer the right money for his release, he’ll go anyway.

The division our club plays in and the money it therefore brings in is in my view much more important. Stay up, we can keep most of the squad together, kick on, and hopefully suffer a boring season of being ok and comfortable in mid table, then go again the following year. Progress.

Go down, there’s a fire sale necessitated by the income gap yet still we make a loss, we have to try and get back out of league one - if they even have a league one - then at the very best outcome after that season we are back to where we were a year ago, starting a championship season with players untried at that level. That’s if we are promoted. Very arrogant to assume we would be - we could be years down there, with every year the financial situation getting bleaker.

So all that said I can’t agree with you whatsoever.

You’re entitled to your view that said, fair enough - though I’m not so sure you need to be so forthright in assuming everyone who disagrees is wrong. We don’t know for certain the club’s view on this but we can have a good guess. The gap in income between the two divisions is said to be £7million. The club wouldn’t expect or ask for anywhere near that much compensation to release Struber. I’ve read somewhere it is £1 - £2million, meaning the club value the championship status as at least £5million more important. I don’t think they’re wrong.

 

A price or a cost.

And there is absolutely no evidence we'll have any form of long term success. We've had 2 seasons of failure and 1 of success so far under this rabble.

 

Of course anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.
If not - then obviously I would know that I was not telling the truth as I see it.

My point here is this.
Relegation would clearly be detrimental in the short term - maybe 1 to 3 seasons long.
BUT - on evidence of watching the performances of the team since Struber has been in charge - then we certainly have an extraordinary manager on our hands here at Barnsley.

I’m not talking about the results here - I’m talking about the level of organisation of the team and individual performances of the players.
You only have to listen to what the Sky commentators had to say during the Leeds and Brentford games to realise this.

IMO - we desperately need to keep Struber no matter what else happens.

 

Way it’s going it’s vital we stay in championship . We would lose 4/5 players dropping into division one . Doubtfull Struber would even stay for division one too

 

Lol

4 coaches and counting.
Massive influx of new signings last season and plenty of outgoings.

 

Cobblers.

Disagreeing with a view is one thing, believing someone is wrong is fine. That is what debate and exchanging opinion on here is about.

Completely unaccepting any merit in another view to your own though, is just pig-headed and conceited. Especially when you completely disregard any reasoning people offer for their thinking and repeat yourself.

Your view does have some merit, but I don’t agree with your conclusion. I might be wrong of course - but I doubt it.

There are two types of people in the world. Those who accept that they aren’t always right, and those who are delusional.

 

You've taken your optimistic pills today Nudge.

 

Staying up, without a doubt.

We haven't kept a manager at Championship level for two complete seasons since Simon Davey, either because we didn't want to keep them, or we couldn't match their ambitions for the club at Championship level. The odds are against this changing with Struber, particularly as he's now apparently on the radar of other clubs, if you believe the press reports.

 

Crocodile

Cheetahs never beat - ah