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Patrick Cryne, end of, his money, his decision.
He is in danger of taking the plan too far, it's a fine line, a player with a large transfer fee equates to big wages also & that's the stumbling block, we don't do big wages

 

I think that it is far more likely that it is dealt with via our policy on player pay. If the size of the transfer fee leads to pay demands that put the player outside our pay scales, then the fee cannot be met, even if we can probably afford it. I believe that the total budget for pay will be linked to turnover excluding transfer income. That makes sense because whilst we could probably afford higher pay budgets until our transfer revenue runs out, that situation could lead to a forced sale when it does. There will also be a pay structure and the network of payments to players will be based upon that structure. The club will be unwilling to break that structure because team morale would suffer if each player was not paid fairly within that structure. Poor team morale leads to lack of effort and lack of concern when results are poor.

This running a football club is not easy. If it were, the fans would be in charge.

 

Do you think we are still operating a L1 budget?

 

So is it the paid employee or the owner who decides whether a million quid can be risked on a player?

 

The person that signs the cheques. I'd imagine they all of the employees involved are fully aware of the constraints on the budget

 

I thought a fan was in charge?

 

Yes they are but fortunatley they also apply grey matter to the decision making process

 

Yesterday could be on of those days we look back on in a few months and say "thats when it all changed"

A major kick in the backside a week before the season starts isnt necessarily a bad thing providing it gets the right reaction from the squad. On the flip side there are a lot of young lads who could just as easily go into their shells and things could quickly go tits up.

If heckys comments speed up the process of getting in the players he wants, then again it might just be a good thing. On the flip side if he does get what he wants and we still struggle he might just have provided the club with enough rope.

 

Ah well. At least we know that you can never be in charge then.

 

No I don't. I do not have any justification for the next bit and it may be totally wrong, but I would expect player contracts to have an automatic increase built into them to cover playing in a higher league. This is probably not enough to put then on a par with what they could earn at another club, but it will have increased our pay budgets significantly. It is not legally enforceable to build in a pay reduction when a club goes in the opposite direction unless there is a get-out clause that allows the player to seek employment elsewhere.

 

No because I don't have the capital to do so.

. Furthermore I could nottake the unwarranted criticism and questions about my integrity that certain users on here do.

 

Do you think the owner's integrity is beyond question?

 

Why is it not legally enforceable to insert performance related pay drises and pay drops into an employee's contract?

 

I would imagine that PC is too bright to even to contemplate that... But I would be worried by Hecky saying **** it ive had enough..

 

Yes absolutely.

It his business and has nothing g to do with me or you

 

Its nowt to do with "holding your nerve" its down to if folk feel its still worth backing the club with their money when the board don't feel the need or have a reluctance to do so. Instead of trying to sell this... us against the world, underdog... sales patter which as been the clubs mantra for the last few years . just show a tad more ambition..

1-8 million for Ollie Watkins.. and getting Sam Morsy last season would have spoke volumes..

 

Thing is we spent the money. This summer and we've still got money to strengthen if required

Are you suggesting that we should play all of our cards in one go

Personally I think we should continue with the strategy that's working

 

But it is not performance related pay is it. Performance related pay is pay that changes according to performance, e.g. a win bonus. I am referring to basic pay that has been increased in order to bring the player more in line with others in his new environment. If that then changes again, that is the team is relegated, the player may argue that he is still capable of playing at the higher level, and unless that argument has been tested, the courts would agree. You must therefore match the reduction in pay with the break in the players contract. In practice, it does not come to this. Player who cannot be afforded are sold on at a loss.

 

Why would the club need rope?

 

Of course it is performance related pay. It is performance which leads to promotion or relegation. Are there any examples of players who have challenged the contract they signed in court? Aston villa players took pay cuts when they were relegated but I don't remember any suing the club

 

I do not have the time to argue this one out. I have told you the correct legal position. I'm sure you can look it up if you want to.