Integrity gone out of cricket

I agree. All respect I had for him has disappeared today. Shameful.

 

Some people can't wait to knock English sporting players.

After the injustice we've suffered I don't think you can blame him.

 

True the aussies have cheated too. But two wrongs dont make a right, bit of a shame in all honesty.

 

FFS!!!! Aussies have never walked, add in the stupidity of their referrals and the sum total is....**** em.

 

Just because the umpire missed the blatant cheating doesn't mean it wasn't cheating. If a player next season cheats by diving to win a penalty against us is that person not a cheat if the penalty is given then? Broad should be banned for a game and have 50% of is fee taken away like Ramdin had happen to him for very similar.

 

Gilchrist walked. As would have Broad if the Aussies had a referral left, otherwise he'd have looked silly instead of naughty.

 

This thread is absolutely ridiculous.

Broad is a cheat this, it's just not cricket that. ******.

It's competitive international sport. Claiming a catch when you know you've dropped it, ala Ramdin, (although he didnt actually claim a catch or make an appeal to be fair) is cheating. Waiting for an umpire to make a decision is certainly not. Batsmen have the right to wait for the umpire to make a decision. And most do.

Michael Clarke has no need to complain. Watch KP bowling at him in Adelaide in 2011. That was worse - he started to walk off, stopped and came back. Only difference was england had a review left so he was eventually given out - so it was less of a talking point.

Steve Waugh didn't walk once in his career. To be fair I only remember Adam Gilchrist ever walking for the Aussies. I'm sure there are more but I can think of a lot more Aussies who stand and wait for the decision. Most of the time the umpires get the decision right. Today he didn't.

Are mistimed tackles, deliberate fouls or handballs 'cheating' in football? Behave. 'Excuse me referee you've given a goal kick but actually it touched me so it ought to be a corner. In fact it was my arm it hit so you might want to consider giving them a penalty'. Er, no.

Dont get me wrong. I actually think Broad should have walked. I'd prefer it if all batsmen did. Jonny Bairstow was halfway to the pavilion before the umpires finger was up. Classy and proper thing to do.

But as summed up by Andrew Strauss on Sky. Walkers are in the minority. Very few walk every time they nick it.

In the last thirty years of test cricket increasingly fewer batsmen have 'given themselves out'. So to even say Broad is breaking the spirit of cricket is pushing it a bit. He's not done anything that hundreds of others on thousands of occasions haven't done before him, and the spirit of cricket cant be upheld any more strongly now than it has in the past. Its been said that W G Grace used to pick the bails up after being bowled, put them back and refuse to walk off! There are examples throughout the history of cricket and its not just cricket as a sport where people accept the luck when they get it.

I remember the cup replay v manure in 1998. John Hendrie scored from being clearly offside. He knew he was offside. The team knew he was offside. The way he shrugged his shoulders in his celebration after scoring proved that conclusively.

He didn't though run up to the linesman, inform him he should have had his flag up and instruct the ref to chalk the goal off. Cheating? Don't recall anybody suggest it at the time. The official got it wrong in the same way an official got it wrong on the Neville tackle on Liddell in the first game.

I don't recall manuel neuer rushing to tell the ref that lampard's shot was a goal. He said he saw it was 'maybe a metre' over the line in a post match interview though. No suggestions that he cheated as I recall, just questions of the ref and linesman.

I agree that it seems a shame that cricketers don't seem to have the same values and morals but this vitriol against Broad is a bit much. He's following the example of plenty of others and you'll note that not one of the Australian team or management have even mentioned him not walking. Just that they were on the wrong end of a poor decision.

The bigger issue isnt broad, for me its that the umpire got such an obvious decision wrong. The quality of officiating has been quite poor in the game. Multiple wrongs don't make a right but I'd argue the Aussies have got more of the poor decisions go in their favour so far - either way it all adds to making it a fantastic game of cricket.

 

Agreee 100%

 

England need to start playing to win, we have far too many Dreamboy thought in our national teams and it isn't good.

Win at all costs at the top level.

 

Was the umpire giving us one after his correct decision was overturned on the trott one? He didn't look happy about it. Maybe he wasn't 100% sure so gave us the benefit.

 

He knew damn well Trott had hit the ball. Dar looked flabbergasted when the video umpire told him to give him out.

Is it cheating when bowlers appeal for a wicket when they know damn well it isn't out? Do they get vilified? It happens every match.

This tripe about it being in the rules - nonsense. Rules state umpires give decisions. With the exception of Adam Gilchrist and Michael Hussey I don't know another Aussie that walks off. I didn't see the Aussies rushing to say Agar was out yesterday or letting Trott back into bat - nor did I see Michael Clarke walk off in Adelaide in the last series.

As Geoffrey Boycott would say 'It couldn't happen to nicer people.'

They can't prove Broad knew he hit it at the end of the day, even if he obviously did. He's broken no rules and he's well within his rights to stand his ground.

 

That's me told then. Next time a bowler appeals for a wicket caught behind knowing damn well he hasn't hit it, or appeals for LBW knowing damn well the batsman has hit it, trying to con the umpire, I'll expect the same level of response.

This uproar is because its Broad & people already don't like him. Simple as that.

 

you are really thick , show us the rule he broke ie cheated ?

 

No, not at all. I am just embarrassed and appalled to support England at times. Today especially. Disgraceful behaviour.

 

So when australia Appealed for an lbw against bell late in the day when it was obvious he had hit it were they cheating ? It happens all the time

 

What about the 2 England batsmen who were given out on Friday when they weren't out, and the young lad from Australia who was given not out when he was out? That makes 4 bad decisions, 3 of them supported by technology, in one match.

Anyway, enough of that. I know someone who walked when he was out LBW, without waiting for the umpire's decision. You know him too!

 

That is different, bowlers appeal for decisions and the umpire makes a call. When a batsman knows he is out he should walk. No laws broken and I wouldn't call it cheating but it does go against the integrity of the game.