Interesting Tweet Regarding Squad Costs

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    Looks accurate to me.

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    why do you think the QPR value is wrong?

    Swansea and West Brom are from the previous year.
     
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    It’s not a surprise because we pay transfer fees for young players to try & sell them on for bigger fees whilst other clubs recruit free agents on much bigger wages.

    It’s long been a gripe of mine that we’ve paid fees for the majority of our squad & released loads of them on frees or got very little back as you simply can’t play everyone enough to make it possible to develop all the players you’ve paid fees for.

    We won’t pay a couple of extra thousand a week in wages for more proven players but will take punts at 3 or 400k for squad players who don’t end up featuring much.
     
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    That graph is pretty much a waste of time.

    Doesn’t really say that much. The key would be wages and the actual annual playing budget.

    I’d imagine we are in the bottom three of both.
     
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    I do not have player wages separate from total wages because the Accounts only shows the total. I do not have the figures for Swansea and WBA yet as they have not been filed at Companies House yet. The 3 clubs that played in League 1 last season are all below ours. Other than that, the bottom 3 are

    Coventry City £13.1m
    Luton Town ££14.1m
    Barnsley £14.3m

     
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    I'm not surprised by us being as high as we are. We rarely pick up a free transfer, and before this season, we didn't dabble too much in the loan market either.

    We do generally pay a fee for a player. The issue is whether we've been spending that money wisely in the last few years.
     
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    Thomas, Schmidt, Kane all signed on long contracts to then get written off after a handful of games and be loaned out probably still at a cost to us, then we sign 3 new strikers and Benson who all get written off early doors. Like you say it's crazy that we don't cut down on these signings to release money for a blend of more experienced players.
     
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    Considering we lost Mowatt last season the loaning out of Kane who’s bizarrely our most experienced central midfielder despite not been very experienced makes no sense at all.

    I can only think they genuinely believed Benson & Gomes were far better than they are & that Palmer & Styles would kick on.
     
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    Yes, The correlation is between league position and salary costs not fees paid- but there’s no doubt that there’s a link between fees paid and salary cost to some extent as well, but I agree we’re probably lower in the salary league
     
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    The first figures are total pay costs, rather than pay costs for playing staffs, but I think they give a good guide. Derby is missing because they are in Administration and will not submit any accounts. West Brom and Swansea are missing because they have not filed their accounts yet. The number of employees also comes from the accounts, as do the figures for player sales, other income, and Net Profit.

    Barnsley £14.4m, 179 employees, Profit on Player Sales £3.4m, Net Profit -£4.3m
    Birmingham City £30.2m, 217 employees, Profit on Player Sales £26.5m, Net Profit -£4.7m
    Blackburn Rivers £25.7m, 217 employees, Profit on Player Sales £0.6m, Profit on sale of training ground £13m, Net Profit £-6.6m
    Blackpool (Lg1) £8.2m, 159 employees, Profit on Player Sales £0.4m, Net Profit -£5m
    Bournemouth (parachute) £57.4m, 330 employees, Profit on Player Sales £55.8m, Net Profit £17m
    Bristol City £30.3m, 210 employees, Profit on Player Sales £6.2m, Net Profit -£34.8m
    Coventry City £13.2m, 160 employees, Profit on Player Sales £1.9m, Net Profit -£4.7m
    Cardiff City (parachute) £33.5m, 184 employees, Profit on Player Sales £2.9m, Net Profit -£11.0m
    Huddersfield Town (parachute) £24.6m, 192 employees, Profit on Player Sales £10.1m, Net Profit 27.5m
    Hull City (Lg1) £8.4m, 162 employees, Profit on Player Sales £2.9m, Net Profit-£8.2m
    Fulham (Prem) £113.9m, 275 employees, Profit on Player Sales £0.1m, Net Profit -£94.4m
    Luton Town £14.1m, 178 employees, Profit on Player Sales £2.2m, Net Profit -£1.9m
    Middlesbrough £27m, 198 employees, Profit on Player Sales £4.3m, Ground revaluation (net) £2.3m, Net Profit -£25.0m
    Millwall £20.8m, 142 employees, Profit on Player Sales £0.7m, Net Profit -£13.0m
    Nottingham Forest £37.2m, 201 employees, Profit on Player Sales £14.3m, Owner Loan written off £5.0m, Net Profit -£15.5m
    Peterborough United (Lg1) £7m, 132 employees, Profit on Player Sales £4.8m, Net Profit -£1.0m
    Preston North End £23.4m, 115 employees, Profit on Player Sales £0.7m, Net Profit -£15.2m
    Queens Park Rangers £24.1m, 171 employees, Profit on Player Sales £17.6m, Net Profit -£4.5m
    Reading £32.2m, 192 employees, Profit on Player Sales £0.7m, Net Profit -£35.7m
    Sheffield United (Prem) £56.5m, 245 employees, Profit on Player Sales £1.1m, Net Profit £95.6m
    Stoke City (Parachute) £47.9m, 257 employees, Profit on Player Sales £0.9m, Net Profit £-42.3m
    I hope that these figures give a better understanding of the Profits and Losses generated by the clubs that played in the Championship this year, even though some of the results relate to clubs that actually played in different leagues in the year under review. However, it does not show the financial standing of clubs at the end of last season. For that, you need to look at Balance Sheets.


     

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