Is anyone else bizarrely confident that we will stay up?

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  1. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

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    OK. I take your point. Still irks me though that this season could have been so different if we'd given it a chance from the beginning.
     
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    Who knows. Perhaps he thought he could persuade Keifer to stay? He also could have made plans that included an adequate replacement? He certainly won't have made plans with Schidt. Either way, he wasn't allowed to bring in who he wanted.
     
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    Because on here that's the attitude. As soon as someone leaves us then they're immediately labelled as ****.

    Stendel is ****.
    Moore is ****.
    Scowen is ****.

    For some reason lots turn on former players and managers and have very short memories.
     
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    Not true that though is it. He had all Summer(if not longer) to persuade Moore and knew all Summer about plans to bring Schmidt in.
    Equally he would have known who the transfer targets were as he was involved in the process.
     
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    Not up to Stendel to offer more money though or to approve the move or approve spending on other strikers. All he can do is ask but that appeared to fall on deaf ears.
     
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    All of that’s if and buts though Helen, he knew what the parameters were that he had to work under. So he knew who was the targets and he knew Moore’s intentions.He would also have known the budgetary restrictions.
    I doubt Struber has been given an open cheque book either.
     
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    Struber has been able to bring in 3 players in January who he wanted.

    Where was the 29 year old centre back that Stendel was given?

    The fact is, Stendel wasn't allowed to bring in who he wanted - all whilst the board were 'keeping in contact' with Struber.

    And we're still 23rd.
     
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    How do you know? You go on about ifs and buts and then just state opinion as fact to suit your narrative.

    The truth is, absolutely nobody knows what goes on at the club behind closed doors.

    If Moore was on his way (which granted, he probably was) then why do it at the end of the window? Why not get it sorted earlier?
     
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    I reckon it's because the board spent quite a bit on earlier transfer activity that summer and had to balance the books. Once Moore was out of the building they brought in Schmidt. Not as a direct replacement but just because they wanted back-up to Woodrow. I think Stendel had settled on his his 4-3-3 system and was going to use a central striker with two nippy winger/strikers alongside.
     
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    Fair point that.
     
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    I base my opinion on what we know.
    We know Moore failed a medical at Cardiff early in the Summer. We also know cos it’s been said many times from many sources that the Manager is included in recruitment.
    It has also been stated by both the club and the player we were talking with Schmidt at end of last season.
     
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    How do you know he wasn’t allowed to bring in who he wanted?
    How do you know the players signed weren’t agreed by him?
    How do you know he did not specifically ask for Wilks, Chaplin, Radlinger etc?
    I’m not saying he was allowed everything he wanted but equally perhaps he was backed to an extent.

    You go on about ifs and buts and then just state opinion as fact to suit your narrative(just saying) :).
     
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    It's also been said many times that the Head Coach has little to do with recruitment in other interviews.
     
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    Touche.
     
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    I have to be honest and say I have never heard that, every time what I have heard is the manager is involved in identifying a type of player he wants, the recruitment team then identify that player.
    From there it muddys slightly in that some say the manager sees the final choices and others say they don’t.
     
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    It’s all about opinions mate, none of us really know.
    I’m not close enough to the club or town to hear a lot, so try to base my opinion on what I (think) know, but have to rely on forums and official outlets.
    I do have a relative who was on coaching team in past and get bits from him but generally he doesn’t speak about his job.
     
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    Fair enough - I'm sure it was mentioned during Hecky's latter days and was one of the reasons he left.

    On a related note, I can just picture Stendel's reaction when he says i want another striker, one who's nippy and can finish. The spreadsheet then comes back with Schmidt as the number one target.
     
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    Where is 55 and counting the man that showed faith in the darkest days this threads made for him. Hope coronavirus has not stripped the forum of all optimism?
     
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    Struber has been allowed some experience though. I just dont think what Daniel thought would happen when we were promoted and what did happen matched up. And that must be very frustrating. Daniels misfortunes and the reaction of the fans have helped Struber I think. And tbf to Struber he has earned the right to have some of his preferred players.
     
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    And there’s the thing Helen, was it Daniels naivety then?
    I ask that because I don’t believe for a moment he did not know the 4 sold were going and also he fully well knew the club policy towards recruitment and his involvement.
    So did he believe he could change the club policy?
    I agree Struber has gotten experience how or why I don’t know but he has.

    I just wish people would stop with the Stendel/Struber comparisons. They are different people and to an extent different times(players and development).
    Stendel gave us some good times and Struber is doing OK too.
     

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