Is Corbyn playing with a full deck of cards?

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  1. Redstar

    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    I've read it. It's a load of *****
     
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    Not only that but we have to bomb Syria when the 9/11 atrocity was committed by people living in the USA, 7/7 was people living in the UK and the events last week were committed by French/Belgian based people. A couple of years ago we were wanting to bomb Assad and now we want to buddy up to him and his Russian allies and these see even the western backed freedom fighters as a threat. We're better off out of the whole sorry mess that is the Middle East - notionally there are countries out there but the only glue that holds them together are autocratic rulers otherwise the whole lot collapses when the likes of Saddam Hussain are deposed and tribal loyalties take over. Notions such as democracy are alien to them and frankly none of them represent a threat to us.
     
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    Sadly the possibility of negotiating with them is non existent as their ideology is to create a world wide caliphate that is ruled by Sharia law and they will brutally murder anybody who doesn't share their ideology. They don't want to negotiate. I remember reading an article by a senior member of All Qaeda who tried to negotiate the release of some hostages with them, he failed and he commented that they were beyond negotiations. If Al Qaeda didn't stand a chance what chance does a Western government have.
     
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    By ending the so called civil war by negotiation, which is nearly impossible with the number of different groups involved btw, how would this get rid of ISIS who are just one more group in the so called civil war and comprised for the most part Syrians?

    No, it's now coming to the stage where the old boots on the ground will only solve the main problem, it will drive them underground and reduce recruitment to a trickle, it won't solve it completely but they will become another al kaida (spelling). Also let Assad remain in power to control his country and not make the mistakes of previous Labour governments by invading Iraq and bombing Libya, just lea e alone ffs
     
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    Back to the original post. Corbyn is tearing the Labour party apart, most can see it, but some are still blind to it. They're not even an opposition right now.
     
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    Make your mind up
     
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    More importantly

    Are You ?
     
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    To be fair mate that wasn't the original post. And he's not the one tearing apart, it's the over-represented Blairite faction in parliament doing that. Plus wait until Corbyn starts to let rip on issues like the horror of the new Housing Bill and Comprehensive Spending Review. He'll unite a hell of a lot more than just Labour supporters on these huge issues.
     
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    Right, to all those that are hard of thinking. He hasn't said he will negotiate with isis, far from it, in fact he says you can't negotiate with them, what he said, now listen carefully, is, the only way we can bring this to an end is to talk to all the countries involved around them and for them to be involved in dismantling their complete infrastructure. First thing to do is to stop Saudi Arabia sending them arms and money and if they wont then we stop selling arms to them ( something we shouldn't be doing anyway) stop Turkey from providing the safe passage that isis uses to sell the oil they have stolen, onto the open market. Work with NATO to come to a legal mandate to attack them. Work with all neighbouring countries to come to a solution to look after all the refugees that will be created by any action that we take. Now that doesn't sound daft to me, that sounds like a well thought out, calm, intelligent way out of this situation. To add my fourpeneth We have the hell out of the middle east one way or another for years and years and not got any where so bombing them harder isn't going to work is it. Now, not that I'm well up on this, but we should be looking at what has caused all the trouble in the middle east throughout the last century, the Sykes-Picot agreement. I don't know, it might be too late, but we ought to be looking at trying to correct what we did wrong after WW1., just a thought.
     
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    My opinion didn't change, by saying you can negotiate with the rebels, that includes ISIS. The man is a joke, he makes statements about the Middle East when he knows next to nothing about what's happening here. Madness

    Reminds me of Sarah Palin and her knowledge of foreign affairs.
     
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    You seem to have plenty to say about stuff happening over here. You can't possibly know anything about it. By your rules like.
     
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    Think we've established that's what you've chosen to hear. And whether you agree with his approach or not, to say it isn't informed is ridiculous. There's plenty of hugely knowledgeable people on the subject who agree with him
     
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    Dubai Tyke New Member

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    Name some
     
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    You work and live in Dubai and are lecturing on morals. Interesting.
     
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    Well just taking Question Time the other night for starters Mhedi Has an and Max Hastings. Pretty diverse parts of the spectrum there. And Hastings said that military leaders and strategists are completely torn on the issue but the ones whose opinions he most respected saw military intervention as counterproductive.

    Personally, it's far beyond me to know what's the right answer and I'm certainly not going to be arrogant enough to say someone who I may disagree with is deluded
     
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    Blairite Tory quislings are tearing the Labour Party apart because they are crapping themselves their cosy number is up when 100,000 new Party members since Corbyns election start flexing their muscles
     
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    It's will be a sad day for Britain if corbyn is ever elected I'm no Tory or labour die hard unlike others but the guy is a joke like I said imagine him negotiating with Putin. we would be better off with jeremy beadle.
     
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    I hope I'm not lecturing on anything, but I have to ask you why the reference to living in Dubai ?
     
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    It would be a sad day if a democratic vote meant Corbyn was elected? **** that democracy crap.
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    Correct.

    Totally unelectable as Prime Minister!

    Sooner Labour ditch him the better
     

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