Is Democracy all it’s cracked up to be.

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Hooky feller, Jun 7, 2020.

  1. churtonred

    churtonred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2011
    Messages:
    11,294
    Likes Received:
    18,406
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dingle. No, really!
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Lol. You need to search your collective conscience.
    Is everybody happy with some form of PR though?
     
  2. Red

    Red-Taff. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,305
    Likes Received:
    3,437
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Anglesey has a Westminster Tory M.P. - young lady from Guildford ! who took advantage of the Labour/Plaid Cymru split vote.
    Angelsey has a Plaid Cymru Member in the Senedd.
    Anglesey also has a regional Member in the Senedd.
    And the Leader of the Senedd is a Labour man (struggling!)
    And the Senedd gets 80% of its funding from Tory run Westminster to run Education/health etc.

    Too many cooks...…...

    My guess is the the Taffs are not happy but it's such a ****-up of a system they don't know where to start to sort it out.
     
    churtonred likes this.
  3. Brush

    Brush Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    17,019
    Likes Received:
    16,024
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Ex-IT professional
    Location:
    Swadlincote, South Derbyshire
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Good (if debatable) point. Personally, I don't want the Union to break up, we're old mates who fall out occasionally but would miss each other terribly.
     
  4. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Messages:
    17,769
    Likes Received:
    20,234
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired, full time grandad.
    Location:
    Mapp.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Sad to say Ian. I totally agree.

    The worry I have is that if Scotland manage to go it alone. We will be stuck with this shower of ***** for the foreseeable without your support.

    If you manage it. would you allow us to cross the border and come and live. :)

    Promise we’ll bring some Percie Turner pork pies and set up a smuggling ring to get em over weekly.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2020
    Farnham_Red likes this.
  5. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    14,466
    Likes Received:
    3,095
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Counting great crested newts
    Location:
    Hiding in a reed bed at the local RSPB nature rese
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    WTF !!!
    Does anyone know of a communist country that hasnt got an elite that oppresses the rest of the population?
    Cuba is a prime example of this.
     
  6. Sco

    Scoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    9,221
    Likes Received:
    7,963
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The interface between business and technology
    Location:
    Brampton by the Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Which is why there never has been *and is unlikely ever to be* a proper communist country. Someone always takes charge and gets the riches and it ends up like Capitalism but with everyone working for the state. The political spectrum is nearer an horseshoe than a line.
     
    Marlon likes this.
  7. Marlon

    Marlon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    23,677
    Likes Received:
    14,562
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    HERE.
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    Seems simple to me ! Obviously they are not communist countries in the sense of what communism is .
    They may have set out on a revolution as communists but once in power have betrayed this .
    Russia was and never had been communist only described as communist .
    I don’t know any country that revolted as communist end up being true communist the leaders always sold out .
     
    Spirit Ditch likes this.
  8. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Messages:
    17,769
    Likes Received:
    20,234
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired, full time grandad.
    Location:
    Mapp.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    From an article

    Today, the existing communist states in the world are in China, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam. These communist states often do not claim to have achieved socialism or communism in their countries, but to be building and working toward the establishment of socialism in their countries.

    North Korea was. but changed to a different Style of government. JUCHE ? .
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2020
  9. Sco

    Scoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    9,221
    Likes Received:
    7,963
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The interface between business and technology
    Location:
    Brampton by the Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Was that an American article by any chance?

    The Socialist Republic of Vietnam and the Lao People's Democratic Republic are Unitary Marxist one party socialist states - not communist and both at least is embracing the market more (Vietnam GDP is predicted to grow by *only* 2.7% in 2020 and Laos is averaging 7+% growth over the last decade). These are also two of the safest countries in the COVID world with 0 deaths between them.
     
  10. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Messages:
    17,769
    Likes Received:
    20,234
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired, full time grandad.
    Location:
    Mapp.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    TBH mate I used Wiki. And checked back. there are several articles still referring to Vietnam as a communist state. they all embrace the market more and are trying to create a more socialistic ideal. It’s there in the article.
    I chose not to copy the full article. just what I thought was relevant. Due to 2/3 posters queries/explanations prior.
     
  11. Spirit Ditch

    Spirit Ditch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2008
    Messages:
    3,140
    Likes Received:
    1,172
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South Deedahland
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Thanks mate, saved me the trouble
     
    Marlon likes this.

Share This Page