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  1. EastStander

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    In 2001 15% of the population declared no religion, in 2011 that had risen to 25%, so I guess by your logic that'll pretty soon be 100% as well!
     
  2. Gloria Stitts

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    Take a conservative estimate instead, that it will only double every 20 years:

    2033 - 8.8%
    2053 - 17.6%
    2073 - 35.2%
    2093 - 70.4%
    2113 - 100%

    He'll get 20-40 years at most.
     
  3. Gloria Stitts

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    I did say it wouldn't work exactly like that but whichever way you look at it, in 60 to 100 years Muslims will make up the majority of the population of the UK.
     
  4. DusThaNoIII

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    What a waste of a brain
     
  5. EastStander

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    No, in the way you look at it it does.
     
  6. Gloria Stitts

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    In every way, look at the demographic projections, if current trends continue Muslims will make up the majority of the population before the end of the century, Belgium, France and The Netherlands before that.

    No use living in denial.
     
  7. ark

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    You missed the 'in the completely statistically flawed way you look at it' bit out!
     
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    But non religious went from 15% to 25% - can't I extrapolate that as well? Or are you the only one allowed to play with statistics?

    The thing is that, as has happened with Christians, many people rebel and turn away from religion after a number of years so that is as plausible, if not more so, than what you have said.

    But once again you manage to take a perfectly innocent thread and turn it to your Islamophobic agenda!
     
  9. Gloria Stitts

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    No I was just saying he'll probably never become King anyway so all this fuss is a waste of time.
     
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    [video=youtube;pUfZ2Di4EYk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUfZ2Di4EYk[/video]


    Which one of these fine specimens is you, then?
     
  11. Gloria Stitts

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    And yet they can understand demographics.
     
  12. ark

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    For the final time, you don't understand demographics
     
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    In some kind of fantasy land maybe

    In 60 years time most Britons will be without religion. And hopefully without a monarchy too.
     
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    The Ultimate "benefits baby".
     
  15. Gloria Stitts

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    Most ironic post ever.

    You do realise that religious people have much bigger families than non-religious ones right?

    Britain will become more religious in future not less.

    White British average 1.6 children, over 5 generations 1.6 x 1.6 x 1.6 x 1.6 x 1.6 = 10.48 people

    Muslim average 4.5 over the same 4.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 x 4.5 = 1845 people

    And that's from one family, clearly none of the left-wing types on here have the slightest understanding of demographics.
     
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    Notwithstanding the futility of discussing this with you given others have clearly stated that the number of non-religous persons also increses year on year and you have ignored this, as time moves on and the children of the first generations and their children (and so on) will start to move away from Islam as they become more and more westernised.

    I'm glad though that you are here to point out all this for us. What do you want "done" about it?
     
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    Ok....here's research from the Pew Forum

    While the global Muslim population is expected to grow at a faster rate than the non-Muslim population, the Muslim population nevertheless is expected to grow at a slower pace in the next two decades than it did in the previous two decades. From 1990 to 2010, the global Muslim population increased at an average annual rate of 2.2%, compared with the projected rate of 1.5% for the period from 2010 to 2030.

    http://www.pewforum.org/The-Future-of-the-Global-Muslim-Population.aspx

    So therefore your assetion that the rate will stay the same would be incorrect.

    I still dispute your theory that this means the monarchy will end though.
     
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    Without even dealing with the fact (as shown elsewhere) that you are using incorrect statistics as your starting point, you are then choosing to use those individual (incorrect) statistics in a vacuum. That's also before we even consider your misunderstanding of how trends work, and the ignoring of other trends across the wider demographic make-up. And then there's the complete absence of inter-related cultural and societal factors, that birth rates correlate with death rates, and fall with relative wealth as infant mortality reduces. Or that there has been a spike in those identifying themselves as Muslim or re-embracing Islam due to the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Islamophobia suffered during the tiny period in time you are using to project your findings, and you assume this trend will continue.

    And you've got nothing to worry about anyway because under your analysis the people without religion will be 100% of the British population way before it is 100% Muslim. Which doesn't work by the way.
     
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