Ivermectin

Gillick Competency is a recognised thing now - and has been since the court case in 1985. Children can make decisions about medical treatment, including the prescription of contraceptives.

 

Ivermectin was discovered by two scientists working with/for Merck in 1975 and licenced for medical use in 1981. The inventors (Satoshi Omura and William Campbell) shared the Nobel Prize in 2015 for helping to significantly reduce the incidence of River Blindness and other parasites.

Now, "Big Pharma" might take some dodgy practices, but if a treatment that cost them cents to make and could be sold for dollars was as effective as claimed, they would be all over it because it is a *lot* more profitable than spending hundreds of millions researching, producing, testing and licencing vaccines.

 

Good point TBH.

I think we're all agreed taking the bovine version is a big mistake.

Small victories.

 

That’s what I don’t understand about people complaining that it will be the child’s choice, all medical treatment is the child’s choice so long as they are deemed competent to make that choice. This is no different it’s just that the headlines have made it seem like something new. What would be noteworthy would be if a child deemed competent to make their own medical decisions weren’t given a choice for this when they are for everything else. This whole thing highlights just how much people were unaware of it even though it’s been this way for nearly 40 years.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

 

Did you log in under the wrong account again CT?

 

I don’t think this is correct. In the theoretical situation you describe, there would be extremely low barriers to entry, meaning that there would be many thousands of potential manufacturers and therefore the price of generics would be driven right down - particularly as presumably all the patents have expired.

Which do you think Pfizer make more money out of - the vaccine and Viagra, or ibuprofen and paracetamol?

 

No. I've only got the one account DR

 

FYI: https://www.nwahomepage.com/news/ar...rmectin-overdoses-backing-up-emergency-rooms/

 

That site unavailable in the EU.

 

SALLISAW, Okla. (KNWA/KFTA) — The controversial antiparasitic drug Ivermectin remains at the center of national discussion as individuals and doctors attempt to use it in its various forms as an alternative treatment for COVID-19. An Oklahoma hospital refuted a public statement by a local doctor who claimed patients experiencing complications from the drug are filling up all area emergency rooms.
Administrators from an eastern Oklahoma hospital spoke out on their treatment of Ivermectin overdose patients after one doctor claimed that an influx of patients overdosing on the over-the-counter version of the drug intended for horses has “backed up” the ERs.

Dr. Jason McElyea initially made the claim toward the end of last week.

“The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated,” McElyea said.
Administrators from Northeastern Health System – Sequoyah in Sallisaw, one of the hospitals where Dr. McElyea works, released a statement on their website claiming that Dr. McElyea’s statements aren’t true of their hospital, and he hasn’t worked at the facility in over two months.

Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room.

With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months.

NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose.

All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care.

We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.
While NHS Sequoyah administrators are defending their own hospital’s ER availability, Dr. McElyea reportedly also does work for INTEGRIS Health in Grove and McAlester Regional Health Center according to various online profiles.

When asked for comment on the situation, McAlester Regional’s media team gave a statement to KNWA/Fox24.
At this time we are not aware of any Ivermectin overdoses at our facility. Dr. McElyea is not employed with McAlester Regional Health Center.
INTEGRIS health has not responded to request for comment at this time.

The FDA and CDC both publicly denounced the use of Ivermectin for COVID-19 treatment.

 

I know it's not relevant to this thread, but can we just take a moment to recognise the fact that this is even a sentence.

 

Also, to be fair, one hospital in the group he represents have denied seeing this. The others have declined to comment. I have no doubt it's a sensationalist, stupid and unhelpful comment, but there really isn't enough clear evidence to call it a complete lie.

There were over 400 reported cases of Ivermectin overdose in the US last month. ie over 10 people per day took a dangerously high dose of the stuff.

As someone who regularly works with the equine version, I can guarantee you that eating even a small amount will make you very very sick. It's a potent, vile tasting, insecticide that can act like a laxative. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a fair few people ended up in emergency rooms from relatively small doses that would not be at a level classed as an overdose... But that's just supposition.

 

Sounds like it would be great for weight loss, if you don't die in the process?

Hopefully you don't **** all your brains & intestines out, or would be a hollow victory.

 

You'd hope they'll eventually realise that letting every Tom, Dick and Cletus own an assault rifle probably isn't a good idea.

 

Rogan has posted some of the most interesting material on the internet over time. My favourites being ones with Randall Carlson for example. Other stuff is ******. Plusses and minuses of free speech. The flood, which is the story in all Abrahamic religions is well told here. Maybe he's wrong. He's done more research than most & debunks the climate change deniers. What would be left of our digital age if we had a meteor strike?

 

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opi...cle_f90599f8-c7be-11eb-a8dc-0b3cbb3b4dfa.html

 

That's a fair point. Being a doctor doesn't make your word golden. I forget the name of that doctor who was saying to use Hydroxychloroquine who also turned out to believe ovarian cysts were caused by sex with demons. And I probably fall towards the fact that this Dr (whose name I also forget) is full of s**t. But the evidence isn't there to label that him with any confidence.

I mean more than 400 people in a month taking dangerous doses of an animal insecticide should be raising eyebrows and gaining media coverage in my opinion. As someone working in the equine industry, I can confirm that concerns are growing daily of a global shortage as people are stockpiling the stuff and selling it on the black market. This is a real mess and seems to be continuing to get worse.

People like Rogan don't help either. How many people out there do you think actually read articles and watch entire programs, compared to those who just glance at a synopsis or even just an article title. He might do his research but there's no doubt in my mind that there are people chowing down on horse wormer because they saw and failed to read an article that states Joe Rogan took it.

It's also worth noting that people are pressuring or flat out lying to doctors to get the human approved drug (which also has no proven benefit for Covid) prescribed. Pre pandemic it averaged 3,600 prescriptions per week in the US and the week ending August 13th it had reached 88,000 per week. If these are genuine prescriptions then maybe the media should be reporting on the intestinal parasite epidemic in the US?

Interestingly Oklahoma has the 2nd highest rate of dispensing Ivermectin in the US post pandemic.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11606-021-06948-6

I do wish they'd give more coverage to the online behaviour of left wing trolls who are clearly infiltrating right wing groups and encouraging people to take massive doses of the stuff.