Johnson and Wilson

We drew at Bristol under Lee Jay they got a late equaliser ibire scored for us. We lost 3-0 at home to Fleetwood Wilson went then we lost 5-1 away at Crawley and sat just above the bottom four. You kidding your self if you think Wilson was great he wasn't. Not 2nd time around anyway. And scowern was signed after Wilson left.

 

Apologies. It was MK Dons not Bristol.

We lost 3-2 at home to Fleetwood.

The Crawley defeat came after Wilson left. Only then did some on here speculate that sacking him could lead to players giving up but Burton & Heckinbottom steadied the ship.

Wilson signed Scowen last January. Was in his team for a while

 

Anyone who says we were in relegation trouble when Danny was manager needs to give their head a shake. That includes you, Patrick. Absolute poppycock. We were 7 points off the bottom four, and 7 from the playoffs, mid ******* table. We're currently 3 points off the bottom four, by the way. And judging by the photos and footage today, Oakwell looked well empty, there didn't look 8,500 there as stated, put it that way. So the crowds aren't there. Another reason - if you remember - they got rid of Danny.



Fact is, we ARE no better off, 6 months down the line, having sacked 'a manager'. That his name was Danny Wilson is irrelevant. We have not progressed in any area since dismissing him.

However, does that not also show that sacking LJ wouldn't be the answer?


Board/owner make their decisions, we have no input. We aren't able to affect them. No matter how many times 'they' try to slide blame in our direction. So we may as well suck it up, be patient and see where we go.

 

Of cause the fans affect Crynes decisions, I'd say that nearly every manager PC has sacked has been due to unrest amongst fans and poor results of cause.

 

Mr Cryne has been very clear that he doesn't get involved in decisions to sack managers and he delegates all decisions to those who run the club.

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I quite enjoyed the football under Wilson at the start of the season. He also had to deal with the shambles that was left to him. Young players were signed and academy players were given a chance. We lost our way and had a bad run, but young players were comin through and some of the signings made were top notch (still our best players now). I didn't want him sacked because personally I didn't know who we could get that would do better....

I don't want LJ sacked now. I hope he gets it right.... But it seems like a step back to me. I don't go to away games anymore so can only comment on the games I've seen at home. But 1 up front and passing the ball back to the goal keeper from 40 yards out constantly and a team full of loanees is not what I want to see. The football also seems more negative.


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Yes not Fleetwood I mentioned Swindon who beat us 3-0 at home. Before Wilson went in February we hadn't won away scince Sheffield United and that was on the 1st of november. His win percent as barnsley manager (Second time round) is probley no worse that Lee jays

 

Ha ha , yeh ok.

 

Win percentages are irrelevant, you judge a team based on the resources available to them & how they perform in relation to that.

I've not tried to defend Wilson's second reign, no doubt it was poor but he wasn't helped by Winnall & Ramage been injured during that period, Cranie also had 2 months out, Cole went back to City & Williams got crocked.

Imagine this side if we lost Winnall, Mawson, Roberts, Watkins & Hourihane within a few weeks of each other. Scary thought.

 

Cowgill played 10 minutes away at Walsall due to an injury crisis
Oates came on as sub in about 3 games
Maris never played under Wilson
McHale played 20 minutes in the league cup and soon left

The other four had a fair amount of game time but there were games under Wilson when no academy lads played

 

We do only have 1 fewer point than at the equivalent stage last season

I agree we've been put back 12 month but I do feel that Johnson is far better equipped than Wilson to get us promoted. But at this stage they're doing about the same

 

Why do we keep getting managers who are too proud to admit they are wrong

 

Making things up again to try and prove a point.

It's laughable.

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Based on what exactly?

LJ is being given a reputation and a level of trust and certainty that, in my opinion, is based on nothing more than supposition, and is at a level that he has done nowhere near enough to have actually deserved.

 

Can I ask why based on what you have seen and the fact he has no experience of doing so?

Genuine question not being arsey.

 

Making things up again when will it end.

And John O'Sullivan was a player scouted by the club's statistical analysis approach. He was then approved by Wilson. In the same way Johnson approved the signing.

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Isn't it about time to make your point without insulting people at the same time. You may not agree with a poster but why make it personal?

O'Sullivan like Williams was highlighted and targeted by the previous manager in conjunction with his support network.

 

Accusing someone of making something up is hardly insulting lol

 

What have I made up there?

Explain.

Were you on this forum back then? Barely anyone was talking about relegation, barely anyone wanted Wilson out

 

I think barely anyone wanting Wilson out is pushing it a bit.

Thought it was 50 50 ish.