Just listened to Ritchie's interview on Radio Sheffield

Personally I think YOU are missing the point

Premiership talk is stupid until until we are out of this divsion and holding our own in the ine above (if that's how we get out of this division).

Lets put the P word to bed, until we are playing like a team woho might stand a chance

 

Yeah Premiership is our goal

I dream of winning the lottery as well, but in the mean time my realistic goal is getting the next pay rise taking a bit more money home and improving my lot.

Lets not be one of these idiots that dreams of being a popstar while sitting on the dole. Small steps, realistic ambitions.

 

I agree. I think Richie doesn't believe he is a very good manager, and is doing the psychological groundwork for if he fails.

His negativity worries me greatly, BUT...let us not forget the over optimism of the Ridsdale era, and how we complained about it.

Somewhere in the middle would be nice.

 

psychological groundwork for if he fails?!

i don't see that myself. why would he want to do that. he's attempting to make an effort at "managing expectations". badly.

 

Do you? Did you hear the interview on Radio Sheffield?

I've always been under the impression you live down south, far away from the reception area of Radio Sheffield. Obviously not though, because no one in their right mind would accuse someone who did listen to an interview of missing the point if they didn't actually hear the interview themselves, would they?

Andy Ritchie said he didn't believe we could ever compete in the top half of the championship again. Ever. Of course, you'll have heard that, what with listening to the interview. I guess you can never see that happening either.

I'm sorry that my belief in this club is such that it causes people such consternation when I put forward the opinion that we should not write ourselves off and that our manager shouldn’t write us off either.

 

No worries

I think yesterday's fantastic result added weight to the point. I reckon a lot of people went to the game in hope rather than expectation. I certainly didn't read any posts on here claiming we'd win 4-0. That's not surprising considering we hadn't scored in the previous 4 games. But we stuffed the opposition.

Tempering expectations is all well and good and considering the state we've been in for years, and the financial burden that is still on the club, it's a sensible philosophy. But BFC should not be written off completely. We still need some hope that things will eventually get better.

 

RE: Now if you were demanding Premiership football...

I said

"I dont expect us to challenge for promotion to the prem in the very near future but I certainly hope it may happen in the next 10 years."

Andy ritchie apparantly sadi we would NEVER be challanging to get into the prem.

We have seriously challenged for promotion to the top league no less than 4 times in the last 23 years actually achieving promotion once.

If you are happy with ritchies negativity then thats your limited horizons summed up..I personally think its scandalous.

 

I agree to some extent..

..but the guy said Never.

He is paid a great deal of money not only to manage the team but also to perform a bit of PR.

BTW good result yesterday but lets face it Oldham were *****. I wont be getting carried away.

I am however seriously hopeful we will make the play offs.

 

So then Mr Ritchie..........

Luton can get to 3rd in the championship on no money, lower crowds and there poor ground. But barnsley cant get in the premiership EVER again ? Well if you think that go back to Oldham because we dont need your negative attitude.

 

RE: psychological groundwork for if he fails?!

Because....if he fails at his job, he can turn around and say "I told you so".

Maybe it's a better way to lessen expectations than to raise them. Let us hope he has a private agenda.

 

RE: psychological groundwork for if he fails?!

he also made his comments justa few minutes before kick-off, i reckon he probably had the majority of his mind elsewhere. he doesn't use a scrip writer, he just responds to questiosn as they come, im sure if he had time to sit down and compose and answer, like we all do on here, time to think, time to plan, time to patch up our shoddy posts...hence the edit button!!!! then it wouldnt happen. come on, give the guy a break, but he is right, or should that be write??? without a cash injection of big bucks we will never get to the prem.

 

No matter how you try to justify his statement

its still defeatism.

OK we may have severe difficulty doing well or surviving in the prem but to say we will NEVER get there without a huge cash injection is TOTAL and UTTER B*ll*cks and you know it.

It certainly is attainable by steady investment in the club, shrewd management & transfer activity, hard work and, most of all, a bit of luck.

 

RE: psychological groundwork for if he fails?!

I think he was referring to the fact that he will never be be challenging for the premiership at Barnsley,I think he's right

 

If he meant challenging to win the prem of course he was fricking right

..but I dont think thats what he said.

 

No mate

The interview was recorded on Friday.

 

RE: No matter how you try to justify his statement

Most people on this BB post then in a defeatist way.
I think he used a bad choice of words but what he was saying in essence was pretty accurate. It will take time for us to get back there if we ever do. Our aim should be to be a competitive Championship side and I am sure Andy thinks that is achievable.

 

RE: psychological groundwork for if he fails?!

I see where everyone is gettin angry or upset at what Andy said yesterday, friday whenever. As it seems a very defeatist interview. But like a few other posts on here i can see where he is coming from. And to be honest i agree with him.A few reasons why,1. people go on about other teams getting promoted to the premiership with hardly any money but would have wigan got to the prem without dave whelan or whateva he is called etc.2. Other people are saying he has no ambition. well if andy ritchie has no ambition then why would he, together with gordon shepard come up with a 2 year plan to get barnsley FC into the championship??why would he put the effort in to get the signings he has got. To me, signing new players says the squad needs improving and to produce a better team that will get/try to get promoted!!3.I give andy ritchie lots of credit because of his interviews etc and he says it how it is!! To me thats how it should be. Id much prefer a manager to say for E.G i dunno erm.. i can see the team struggling this season next season whenever than sayin oh weve got a squad capable of running away with the league etc etc. But i beleive the squad we have at the minute can beat any team in the league no matter of previous results!4. Also to be honest the gap between premiership football and championship football neer mind league 1 football is huge...it will be a long time before we produce a squad capable of tackling teams like the chelseas and the arsenals etc, no disrespect to the team we have at the minute because like i have said i honestly believe we have 1 of if not the best squad in life and on paper in the league..I kno i may get sum stick from some people!! But that is my opinion, i respect othere peoples aswell!!
cheers ben

 

RE: psychological groundwork for if he fails?!

Not much to disagree with there.

 

tykeman

Andy Ritchie said we would never again be a competitive championship side. That is why I was less than impressed with what he said.

 

Apparantly though he said

"clubs like Barnsley...will NEVER be challenging for promotion to the premier league"

So if you agree with that then you really are a defeatist.

I dont agree with such nonsense and if you think that its an unrealistic hope then I shall hand in my season ticket and not go again.