Just seen this, on sports wages compared to Football wages

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  1. DSLRed

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    What has? - my hatred for premier league football?
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    I thought that what people were saying was that TV money especially SKY money was enabling clubs to pay players (Rooney currently ) far more than their actual ability warrants. In most cases also being subsidised by ramping up costs to fans to he point where it is unaffordable to many.
    In addition that same TV creates an unfair playing field between the haves and have not's and also means that if said media income dries up many clubs re fked.
    So in essence the majority (the fans) are still being screw to keep he minority (primarily greedy prem players) in unrealistic wages
     
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    In addition that same TV creates an unfair playing field between the haves and have not's and also means that if said media income dries up many clubs re fked.

    unlike other countries, the Premer league teams all get the same.
    Whats the deal like in Itlay France Germany because Spain don't do it for certain.

    If the top clubs wanted to be greedy like some say they just tell Premier to get lost and do there own deal and get the kind of money Real and Barca do.
     
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    I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove with percentages. Kobe Bryant's $27.9 million works out at a very similar wage to Wayene Rooney's. In US dollars Rooney gets $26.1 million if the £300,000 per week is accurate.

    So the highest wage earner and arguably the best player at both teams are on very similar wages. However, as you said, Bryant's wage takes up a huge proportion of the total wages, while Rooney's doesn't. The rest of the squad at the LA Lakers don't earn massive wages. The less able are not paid all that much. In football, well at Man Utd at least going from your figures, the average players are clearly on very high wages too. That's why Rooney's wage only accounts for a relatively small percentage of the total wages.

    That's the difference between football and the rest of the world, including all other sports. The very best (or the most successful at any rate) get good wages in just about all walks of life. The most successful film stars/pop stars/Basketball players/cricketers/heads of business/artists all get a great chunk. They do in football too, but the average and mediocre get a massive wage too and that doesn't really happen anywhere else.
     
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    It's not interesting at all. You are aware that most US sports operate under a salary cap where as UK football is uncapped? It's designed to control payroll in the way that we don't.

    If a US sports team wishes to pay more for a player then it has to sacrifice money elsewhere. Therefore the salary is actually reflective of a players importance to a team - not how much Scudamore has rinsed BSkyB for TV rights this time around. If UK football had a salary cap then Rooney would be probably paid a quarter of what he actually is.
     
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    I do wish we'd bring in a similar system here. I'm against a salary cap for individuals, I don't believe authorities, sporting or otherwise, should limit what an individual can earn, even if the highest paid players are on ludicrous amounts. But a cap on the total spend seems like a very sensible idea to me. Like you said, if you pay a star player a lot of money you have to make cuts elsewhere. It stops one team accumulating all the best players and makes it a much more level playing field. Almost every team in the league could potentially win the Championship, an impossibility in the current climate. And you'd really be able to tell who are the good and bad managers. Dario Gradi would have been the most sought after manager for years.
     
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    Wage caps are illegal Jay and teams just get around them.

    Some Girlfriends or wives of Rugby league players apparently earn as much as there boyfriends/ husbands.
     
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    Don't tell the NFL, NBA, NHL and MBA then, that would be one almighty court case. You mean teams get around badly policed and worded wage caps.

    Well done Hemmsy on being the only world citizen to notice the illegality.
     
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    Five fold means by five times as much i.e 500%. That's BS.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1100132/football-finance-premier-league-wages-up-9-percent
     
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    There should definitely be a Premiershit footballers tax I'd go for a graduated rate where someone like Rioney would have to pay 75 percent of his earnings as tax. The old argument that they would just go abroad doesn't apply to British footballers as Ian Rush once said of playing for Juventus "it's like living in a foreign country'". It would get shut of a lot of the more average foreign imports freeing up space for English players to play regularly. Imagine we could build a school or hospital from the Rooney Tax very quickly.

    Move gets the same wage as Rooney as he is the absolute top of his profession. The percentage is less because of the salary cap but has you stated this is often manipulated so the true figures are disguised. To an extent no one argues with those at the very pinnacle earning very good it's the very average earning daft money that grates. Someone like Frimpong not yet shown himself to be good enough to play for us picking up millions from Arsenal no one except you can see the sense of.
     
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    The figures are flawed though. In reality wages have increased much more but premier league squads are much bigger. Man Utd & Arsenal for example are carrying over 60 players in their squad & almost half are loaned out to lower league teams meaning they're classed as premiership players but in reality they're championship or league one players earning 5k a week bringing the average down
     
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    Football in the UK is like a snake which is so greedy that it starts to eat its own tail.
     
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    The Lakers didn't have to lay out £25m for Kobe Bryant in the front end.
     
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    75% would be wrong and not stand like it hasn't in France.

    Imagine we could build a school or hospital from the Rooney Tax very quickly.

    I'm sure they could.
    Also I love how some footballer gives a few thousand to Charity it's put on here and everyone says how good it is. He's rumoured to give a massive amount and people don't mention it
     
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    It's actually working relatively well in France in technical terms though whether popular in political terms or effective as a economic mechanism it's too early to tell. Like I said I wouldn't imagine much of a flight of talent given the insular nature of British Footballers.

    The important word there is rumour and him giving 200 grand a week to charity would be like you giving 40p from your pocket money.
     
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    I honestly don't understand how you can say some of this.

    It's business.
    Lewis Hamilton he gets Mercedes a lot so he gets a lot, same with Rooney.
     
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    If Rooney's on £15,600,000 a year a year and it's only 3% of the wage bill, it means that the wage bill is £520,000,000 a year. Surely that can't be right can it?
     
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    so what the reason anyone goes to work is for the money and if someone is daft enough to pay you daft wages then I'm daft enough to take them !. jeez its all jealously, best of luck to you if you can get it
     

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