Just what has this country come to??

What's you having a friend who's black got to do with owt? I've got a friend from Sheffield, I've got a friend who's ginger! What you posted about Bradford wasn't just facts, you inferred that to be British you had to be white. And why because I disagree with you should I get off my soap box? Should everyone else who posted about this get off their soap box?

 

Zzzzzzzz....

(zzz) oh read into what iv'e posted as you like,i can't be arsed even beginning to explain myself to such a P.C model of britishness like yourself! (worship)

 

RE: Read my post again and tell me wher it says I am not proud of our soldiers....

I was just giving my opinion on the matter, not judging you at all, just taking part in the conversation. I personally try not to generalise (I met loads of decent British Muslims at uni) and just see us all as human beings. Take everyone I meet as I find them. And you are entitled to your opinion as much as I am to mine. I agree that whiteness does not equate to Britishness, my point was saying just that. But I was particularly interested in you saying:

"I am amazed that the Police are criticised for preventing mass disorder and violence"

Why didn't they just prevent the protest? I am sure they have the power to do that if they think there is likely to be trouble. I would have said that it was likely. It is too easy to say the people who reacted were to blame, they were seriously provoked, like I said feelings are running deep for the people who will have attended the parade. Common sense would have prevented it, so why wasn't it? Afraid of being called racist?

 

LOL! Great answer - don't want an explanation...

Send em back - they were probably born here! I'm not PC, I just don't like knee jerk reactions from people spouting the same **** as they were - hatred breeds hatred and there's enough of that going on already without it coming onto the BBS which is supposedly a football forum. And yes I will get off my soap box, and yes I will **** off and yes I will bow down to your better knowledge of all things worldly wise.
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If you post **** like you have done then don't expect people to just accept it with no comment or come back. If you can't be bothered to get into a reasoned discussion about what you post with someone who doesn't think similar views then why bother posting? Reasoned argument and discussion doesn't end with sarcasm and insult - although I suppose a lot of time it does on here! Just because I may be outspoken doesn't mean I'm going to shut up.
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thats just it! am a sarky tw@t! freedom of speech an'all that!!

(babyhaha) (lol)

 

Apologies if you thought I was having a go - not intended at all. I have watched the youtube stuff and have thought ling and hard about a lot of stuff to do with the Police in relation to this and the BNP stuff in town. What powers do the Police have to stop people demonstrating? I think what was said by the protesters was disgusting and those holding up the banners that were deemed offensive should have been arrested for public order offences. On many occasions people aren't arrested at the time because it's not the right time to do it - but they can be held accountable at a later date. How would you feel if the Police prevented you protesting about something that you felt passionately about? The point is that we cannot pick and choose what we want freedom of speech to be about - the essence of it is that some people hold views which are repugnant to us, and yes we can do things about it when it encroaches into racial hatred towards us and causing us distress but it isnot a Police state and we cannot prevent people from saying (or thinking) things that they want to say.

 

They could have protested somewhere else. What they did was provoke by protesting there, and like I say, I am sure if the police feel there is a risk of disorder then they can prevent or at least move them elsewhere. I am all for freedom of speech but we can't have it causing violence. Like I say, common sense over political correctness sometimes.

 

You can and you must intervene if it's an incitement to riot/hatred. That is a crime and punishable whatever race, creed or colour the protesters.</p>

I applaud your original post, and agree with the vast majority of it - but I can't accept that there can ever be total freedom of speech. With freedom comes responsibility and there is a line to be drawn; as I say incitement is clearly on the wrong side of it.</p>

And I can't help the uneasy feeling that the police would have acted differently if the roles had been reversed - much as I would like to think not.
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Yes, we know.

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Like I said earlier the anger in this thread isn't directed at the 99.8% who didn't show. We know it's not all of them. You don't need to point it out every ******* time.</p>

 

Sorry.

I was responding to posts saying "burn down the mosques" etc

Anyway - just who are we talking about - seeing as it's not the 99.8% that didn't turn up but it's not about the protestors either!
http://www.barnsleyfc.org.uk/bbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=136156&mid=907269#M907269

 

one of the most ridiculous threads ever

ffs

 

Thank god for that.

Good post.

 

Thats all wrong

He's got to much weight on his right leg and the baton arm is bent to much at the wrist, it wantS to be a more straighter movement using all of the arm and then the last flick of the wrist will put the rider off balance and possibly un-horse them IMHO. (doh)

 

The fact that the police allowed them to protest is equally as bad as the scum who protested - it was in every dangerous and inciting a riot which is a public order offence in this country. Had it been a group of white skinheads they would have been arrested. Two arrests were made, both from a group protesting against the protestors - that is fundamentally wrong. I dont think anyone of sound mind would say that all muslims are the same but it is the responsibility of the muslim community to root out these parasites. Bigotry on all sides is wrong but it seems to me that it is more prevalent within the muslim community - are they as tolerant as we are? No they are not. If they do not support our troops it suggests they support the likes of the taliban which should disqualify them from british citizenship - they should be sent to the shithole countries their hearts bleed for. They are racist cowards and I despise them. I'm not racist, I work with and have recruited some very nice muslim people but I have will not tolerate the extremists who want to turn this country into a muslim state.

 

Quality

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You should be ashamed of yourself Chris lad. nt

 

Pay attention.

The OP refers to the system that allows this sort of thing to happen. The ensuing anger in the thread is directed at the protestors. Unintentionally or otherwise you've dovetailed the responses to two different things.

 

Do you think so? nt