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  1. ste

    steveos71 New Member

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    I don't know you but I know you very well. If it is true that you don't even go down to watch the team (is it?), then that clearly doesn't preclude you from expressing an opinion. However, if all you really want to do is be critical of people who try and retain some faith in the club (your happy clappers) and who do attend matches then I would suggest that your criticism is invalid.
    Do you also not watch fillums and then pass comment on them? How impertinent and arrogant is that? No answer required - the question was rhetorical.
     
  2. Gaz

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    Re: He's clearly utterly fed-up ...

    He's also clearly off with the fairies. I quite like the guy and I did initially admire his ability to speak his mind, but most of it now is sounding whining and self-pitying. He has to realise that people are paying a lot of money to watch players who earn in one game what it takes the average fan two or three months to earn - that is if they still have a job - and to listen to the well-paid manager of these well-paid players continually moan about the lack of support is starting to get pathetic. He and his team are in a privileged position. About time they realised that.
     
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    North Yorks Red Well-Known Member

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    Re: He's clearly utterly fed-up ...

    You don't think that works in the other direction then? because him seemingly going out of his way to antagonise fans isn't helping.The sad thing is he could be a really likeable guy seems to have a decent sense of humour n all that but he really pisses me off when he keeps bleating on about being under pressure, because you know what so are a great many of our fanbase ( and the general population if it comes to it ) on a lot less money than him and the players are getting for doing doing a job that most of us would love to do.
     
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    You mean his mate :)
     
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    I think he'd like most Reds fans to look beyond their nose ends

    I think he'll be disappointed.
     
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    Spot on. He had his name chanted last Friday and many times today. Brilliant support if you ask me.

    Yes there is whining but players SHOULD be under pressure
     
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    Re: He's clearly utterly fed-up ...

    My point is that calling him thin-skinned and using it as an insult while being entirely thin-skinned in response to it is ironic. Thats all.
     
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    Re: He's clearly utterly fed-up ...

    Probably not a great idea to slag off your main
    source of income especially when people are supposed to be paying up in just over three weeks.
     
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    Re: I think he'd like most Reds fans to look beyond their nose ends

    we have numerous 'pinochios'
     
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    Didn't he get the job because Robins was not willing to work within the budget?

     
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    Not quite, Robins was put on 12 months notice because he asked for time to think about the new framework he had to work within, then he left because his job was then untenable. Hill knew we had bugger all money from the very first day he was approached, why he goes on about it is baffling, unless there is even less for him next year and he is pushing for more?
     
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    Sorry - that's what I meant. Unless things have happened behind the scenes and the budget has been further reduced, then I assume he knew what he was taking on. To be honest, his willingness to criticise EVERYTHING about the club (his employer) is certainly different to anything I've experienced before. His comment in the Chronicle about the 'peanuts' we received for Vaz Te, accurate or not, would appear to be a direct criticism of the club's owner and its directors. I've felt for some time that he is either so confident of his position that he feels he can say anything he likes, or alternatively is attemting to goad his employers into paying up his contract. One thing is for sure - we can rule him out of the England job if he thinks this one is pressurised!!!

     
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    I don't think that working within a budget is Keefs gripe, I think it's a small section of fans that call his signings lower league ***** before they've even kicked a ball and think we should be signing players who are way out of our financial reach that are pi55ing him off.
     
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    I can honestly say that I have never criticised any of his signings without seeing them play. I equally believe that some of them are clearly not up to Championship standard on the evidence so far.

     
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    Some of his signing have been ***** though, if he cant take the heat , he is in the wrong job. I think he has done ok this season, not fantastic , but OK, he could have done a lot more if he had the fans ALL on his side, not trying to split them up, like it has on here.
     
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    I was stood next to a bloke at the game today who made a very similar point, about him alienating some of the fans and while I really like him I can see how he can come across. I do think that he also needs to grow a thicker skin to criticism if he is to bridge some gaps. I think he will.
     
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    I really want to like him, I dont dislike him, I just cannot take to him. He seemed to go out of his way to square up to the fans and it was as if he wanted to squash anyone that dared to say anything against him. He thought it was going to be easier than it turned out to be and he has started looking a bit baffled lately. I feel sorry for him because he really thought he was "ALL THAT" and it turned out he was just human like the rest of us. Alienating the main souce of income for the club is never a good idea, but to then say we expect too much and dont understand what he has to work with , is just taking the piss. We have known for years that other clubs have more money, better players , but we also knew that the players and manager would go out and try to prove that , so what, we can at least make you work damned hard for the points. Even if the other team are better, if the players give everything I will not complain, but if they are slacking and I include the managment team too, then they had better buck up of fook off!
     
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    THAT!!! He'll not respond tho!
     
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    Of course there is pressure but the players responded well after Fridays result Keith is the only voice coming out from the club there is no need to micro analyse his comments post game or select individual players for a pasting. Whatever the shortcomings of the club at present everyone is commited to preserving our Championship status.
     

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