Khaled El Ahmad tonight....

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  1. Loko the Tyke

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    I don't think so. I'm so confused on the West Stand debacle and who said what/when that I zoned out a little bit. The aim is to get everything completed and fans back in the West Stand as soon as possible though.
     
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    Initially read your comment wrong, thought the West Stand had gained new structural issues; glory holes.
     
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    I really did. Not in an 'I've been easily influenced' way, they just felt like genuine answers and a positive and progressive outlook for the football club. Open to challenge, eager to learn and listen, etc. I can't stress enough how there were some strong home truths told tonight about the feelings towards the owners and the West Stand and he engaged in all of them.

    I do believe we're sometimes guilty of thinking things are simpler than they actually are. It shouldn't be a surprise that five weeks in, with everything we're going through, he doesn't know how hard we tried to keep Val or Mowatt, or what went on with Dane Murphy, or why supporters are questioning a £750k payment he's been told by his bosses was agreed by the board as a 'bonus' payment.
     
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    Thanks for that. Much appreciated.
     
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    As if they didn’t know 2 minutes after it leaked out yesterday
     
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    I saw tweets from Moon and Kane liking the leaked news on Sunday afternoon.
     
  7. Loko the Tyke

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    Are you 100% sure of that one mate? Only because your like history is on Twitter for all to see and neither have anything on there.
     
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    They were posted on the Tykes talk Facebook page, Kane's was Instagram


    My mistake, Kane's was on the official announcement....still a bit naughty tho
     
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    I would agree with the above and good to meet you tonight Ben.
    The fact that Khaled has been in the job for five weeks and he's come out and listened to supporters and take away concerns is a good thing. The fact that he still went ahead with the meeting after the previous 48 hours and was clearly cream crackered us also commendable.
    Of course the proof of the pudding will be in the eating but on no occasion tonight did he try and avoid any question. He also gave questioners the right to ask further questions if they thought his responses weren't comprehensive enough.
    He also had the balls to say if he disagreed with anyone's views.
    In my world its wrong to start damning someone after they've only been in post for 5 weeks.
    I guess the cynics amongst us will argue that no CEO appointment made by the 80%ers can be trusted; that he/she will always be a Board puppet.
    Let's see. The guy I saw and listened to tonight seemed genuine and he seemed to care.
    When the Comms Team who were present were asked about his first five weeks, to a man / woman they were ultra positive; and to a man / woman its safe to say that those guys aren't "fly by nights" or chancers. They've seen many changes at our club and they are, more than any of us who post on here, best able to make an early assessment of our new CEO.
    Good luck Khaled.
    ps thanks for the ticket Sherrif.
     
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    So we have to.sell before we buy? What happened to val and the coaching staffs compo? The 11k season tickets sold? Will they be putting the 750k back in?
     
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    A fantastic post and encouraging to hear. I said when Khaled was appointed that he will likely be merely a puppet for the board, and that remains to be seen. But what is commendable is that he has faced the fans - rightly(!!) - twice in 5 weeks, in the middle of what could be termed a tornado that is currently swirling through our club. I like to take people at face value, and I'm glad he came across well tonight and seemed genuine and that he cared. Time will tell, but we should give him a chance of course.
     
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    I don’t recall it being said like this but might be wrong. I didn’t think there was a question about owners putting their hands in their pockets as early as that.
     
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    Likewise Steve. Real pleasure. Excellently worded overview as well - especially the part about club employees as I was just thinking the exact same thing.

    We’ve got an incredible team behind the scenes at Oakwell, arguably undervalued and overworked at times, but they gave Khaled a glowing reference for the impact he’s had so far for them. Genuinely glowing as well. Not just ‘I best be nice as the boss is here’.
     
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    If you're the CEO of a professional football club and you fully intend to stay at the location where you currently play, you DO NOT, EVER, say "The goal is to stay at [Insert name of current Stadium]".

    The reason you don't say anything of the sort is that you have never even contemplated moving, so there is no 'goal' to stay at your current location. You're already there and you don't have to move.

    Such a statement only serves to admit that you are, absolutely, without any doubt, looking at every other option. This guy is just too stupid to realise he's giving this away. Actually, it's worse than that. It's a full and frank admission that moving away from Oakwell is the goal and they are simply giving out platitudes to those they know will be deeply offended by this course of action. When it happens, they will have been "Unable to realise our primary goal."

    He's only given three interviews so far and he's said this exact same thing in every one of them. Why does he have a goal to stay somewhere that no one is evicting them from, that they have a solid contract to continue utilising? That's like having a goal to remain sitting down when no one is asking you to get up. And then telling everyone who is not asking you to get up that remaining seated is your goal. No one is asking them to leave Oakwell, they don't need to claim they want to stay, they're already welcome. More than that. The whole purpose of the place is for them to play there. That's why it's there. That's why PC and the Council bought it. They don't need a goal to stay at a place when the sole purpose of that place is for them to play football in it.

    I don't have a goal to carry on living where I live. This is where I live! I'm not trying to keep living here, I just live here. I'd only have a 'goal' to stay here if I was currently being evicted. Or if I was a lying SoB, trying to do the dirty on the landlord and attempting to get out of a contract on some trumped up nonsense.

    This is pure horse ****. And the rest of the nonsense he spouts should be viewed in exactly the same way.

    Now I have a goal to go for a wee. And just like every other night, no one is stopping me. I think I'll easily manage it.
     
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    Does every stand in a football stadium have to be accessible to disabled supporters? Apologies if my terminology is not correct, it's not meant to cause offence, I'm just not sure what the correct term is.

    The point I'm struggling to get to is: if a stadium can house 20,000 supporters, and three of those stands can adequately accommodate 17,000 disabled supporters, but the the fourth stand isn't really suitable for any disabled supporters at all, ground level issues, steps, etc, is that a problem? The majority of the stadium provides good access to everyone, but one particular area is only really suitable to people without any mobility issues, does the law, as it stands, dictate that area should be closed?
     
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    I might be overthinking this here. But, do you think, there is a small, even the slightest chance that the wording might be different to how you have construed it.

    Just because you think something, or perceive something in a certain way, doesn’t mean it’s right. Neither does it mean I am correct either, I’m just saying, don’t take things as gospel by way of your opinion.

    I look forward to being called a paedo or a moron or a board apologiser, as I have dared to have a slightly different opinion than you :)
     
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    Not from me you won't. I think you're incorrect but that's as far as I'll go.
     
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    I don't think this is helpful in the slightest. When someone pays me I have no idea where that money has come from. What makes you believe the Cryne family knew it had been taken from the club's balance? Rather than , say, they found out when the accounts were published?

    I don't know one way or another, but you are adamant they knew the source of this payment. Could you please post evidence of how you know this, or, if you don't know, as I suspect, stop.
     
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    That's not really the point. Schopp would have hoped it didn't leak. He asked for something and the board respected that. There are some serious issues that fans should be concerned about with the club. And there are a number of other situations where the board have acted, at worst, reasonably, but more accurately very well, when they still get lambasted. This is one of those occasions. If the manager they hired, but then took the decision to fire, asked for time to speak to his squad before an official announcement was made then I applaud them for respecting that.
     
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    It would appear to me that someone didn’t respect that, as the story got leaked. Assuming only the board and Schopp were present when he was first told, the leak must have come from one of them. No idea who or why, but it did.
     
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