Labour Is In Good Hands Going Into This Election

You believe all you read? I suppose I was once the same until I went there and experienced it. Dubai actually ticks all the boxes on democracy exept the vote, and it works. We do still have the death penalty for heinous crimes and so it should be, but there is a zero tolerance for minor crimes, you do something wrong as an ex pat then it's a few weeks in prison and then deportation. Torture? You think the UK doesn't do torture then I guess you could be called naive. The real world is out ther, embrace it, it's not the bull you have been fed by the press and Google. A seven person debate in the UK when it's all about the people behind the politicians, it's not about socialism or capitalism as its all just the same these days. Embrace the world as it is or struggle for the rest of your life and for what? But please come here before quoting Google, as its insane to do that.

 

Ffs do you actually read your posts before pressing send?

 

Quoting Google is insane? Ignoring the wealth of writing about a topic to form a considered opinion? I can't have a view on the exploitation of migrant workers in Dubai because I haven't had a two week all inclusive holiday at the Burj?

 

I'd love to, but my missis reckons our blonde little boys would be stolen away by sheikh bummers.

 

Wow! You have taken the prize for most ignorant bbs posts of the decade. Shouldn't be surprised from someone who hasn't a clue what human rights are. Sorry if you are just a wind up but I'm guessing not.

 

It's interesting that realistically, unless Article 6 (Right to a fair trial) is respected, you'll have no means to uphold your other rights under the Convention! Also interesting that while Article 2 (Right to life) is a qualified right, Article 3 (Right to protection from torture or inhuman or degrading treatment) is an absolute right. Would you rather be tortured or dead? !!!

The real debate in this country is over the misguided interpretation that has been applied to the convention. Most of the rights which judges have used to apply seemingly outlandish protections to all manner of ne'er do wells are expressed in terms which allow them to be balanced against the interests of national security or the prevention of crime and disorder. So the tools are already there to apply them in a sensible way.

Sadly, the judges have applied sometimes perverse interpretations which ignore the balance which their public duty requires them to strike. That leads to ogres like Farrage using the Convention as yet another tool tool with which to press their Victorian agenda.

What a carry on!

 

Ha ha, this is very funny, surely I can't educate someone like you who has had no experience here or anywhere apparently and believes everything he reads on Google irrespective of the fact that anyone can put any bull on the Internet. I have probably seen things you can't even imagine in your worst nightmares but I'll go from there, why do you think people from poor countries come here to work? Do you really think it's because they want to be abused, or can you actually imagine it's infinitely better than from where they come from? I imagine it's difficult for you to understand as you quite surely have not lived in places I have. Do you really think most of the world has even the basics of running water let alone Internet? So please don't give opinions on things you know absolutely nothing about.

 

Sounds like you've experienced quite a bit and learned/understood absolutely nothing.imo

 

I'm sorry but it's like you were just born and don't actually know what's happening in the world, very strange

 

When I visited and studied inequality in Shanghai for my MSc I considered the literature, studies, spoke to different people, observed.*Any conclusions I arrived at were the product of critical analysis. I certainly didn't take anything at face value but filtered my view from every source I could find. I did the same for a module on Dubai, in that instance without the benefit of a field trip. I'm willing to listen to a whole range of views and information. You on the other hand seem to only consider your own opinion worthy, seemingly dismissing the whole host of research on worker exploitation in Dubai.

But thanks for being so condescending. I'll probably speak to my parents and friends who've visited and lived in Dubai next time to understand their experiences first. They'll probably value my thoughts too which is a much more rewarding conversation.

 

Good, I hope you do that, then maybe you will understand that the world is not the utopian bubble you think it is.

 

I was condescending which I apologise for, it just annoys me that some people accept so easily what they read without any local knowledge. Don't quite understand how you can come to conclusions based on Shanghai which are applicable to Dubai though. I have high education as well if you want to compete, but that will never in a thousand years be more important than experience.

 

It was more a response to you saying that I couldn't be educated or had been anywhere, and that I believe everything I read, and the Dubai module was seperate to Shanghai although there are certainly parallels in terms inequality between rich and poor

 

Were you in the Foreign Legion

 

Still am red

 

13e DBLE

 

I know Dubai to be a soulless citadel built on foundations of sand where those of vacuous mind and supine spirit worship at the alter of greed and tyranny, their collective conscience satiated by cash even as they pay the ultimate price of their humanity.

Further, that it's a right Sh*thole.

 

Sorry but couldn't resist to reply to this

No. 1 - given right
No. 2 - doesn't exist in any country
No. 3 - exists in the UK as we all know, never heard of it here though
No. 4 - a given
No 5 - we have trials here
No. 6 - a given
No 7 - a given
No 8 - a given
No 9- a given
No 10- in certain cercumstances
No 11 - a given
No 12 - a given
No 13 - a given
No 14 - a given
No 15 - not given
No 16 - not given

So tell me more.......