Labour - new leader and end of Brexit debate is NOT enough

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  1. Marlon

    Marlon Well-Known Member

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    So we should have politicians that lie through their teeth , that break manifesto pledges . That target the poorest of our country ?
    Because that’s what they’ve picked and believed the lies as you have done about IRA collaboration . Your blind belief if these lies has been the problem .
     
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    It was after a TV appearance in Rochdale.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/apr/28/gordon-brown-bigoted-woman

    According to the report released this morning, 40% of the Labour vote that went on to vote for Brexit had already left the party by 2010 and another 25% by 2015. The voters were already leaving.
     
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    and that proves my point exactly, you blame me and the media for labours biggest ar5e kicking since 1935
     
  4. Marlon

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    Are you proud of your choice ?
     
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    my choice was no corbyn so yes. who will you vote for in the next general election ?
     
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    It won’t be for a self serving ,greedy , poor beating , racist, incompetent , Tory govt choose who’s in opposition .
     
  7. jedi one

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    once again you prove my point. with no manifestos published with 4 years ( ish) of government left to run you've already decided who you're not to vote for no matter what happens............................. 2 legs bad, 4 legs good baa, baa
     
  8. Marlon

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    Eh??
    because I won’t vote for party that openly bashes the poor ,is morally bankrupt when enriching its friends , taxing the lowest whilst cutting them for the richest , that has no clue how to govern in a crisis .
    The sheep comment is ironic as your using it in context that you’ve heard others using it ,
     
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    A fcking Men.
     
  10. jedi one

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    watched and read before. you see i'll wait until this awful virus thing is sorted before i judge s.k.s i'll see how he handles himself in the house and how he clears the decks of momentum and anti semites, see what he has to say and see the manifestos are and if i prefer more of his stuff then he'll get my vote if not he wont and not blindly follow on in a ................... betcha cant guess, 2 legs bad 4 legs good sort of way
     
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    You voted this lot, nuff said .
     
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    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    Blair did this ...... after Smith had died.
    Remember it.
    1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
    2. Low mortgage rates.

    3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

    4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

    5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

    6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

    7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

    8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

    9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

    10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

    11. 85,000 more nurses.

    12. 32,000 more doctors.

    13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

    14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

    15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

    16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

    17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

    18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

    19. Restored city-wide government to London.

    20. Record number of students in higher education.

    21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

    22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

    23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

    24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

    25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.


    26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

    27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

    28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

    29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

    30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

    31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

    32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

    33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

    34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

    35. Banned fox hunting.

    36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

    37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

    38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

    39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

    40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

    41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.

    42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

    43. Free eye test for over 60s.

    44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

    45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

    46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

    47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

    48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

    49. Free nursery places for every three and
    four-year-olds.

    50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

    And finally.... sorted out the Irish troubles.
    And sent troops into Kosovo to stop ethnic cleansing of Muslims.
    No wonder parliament stood and clapped him on his last day.

    But no ....... Labour Party decided to through all that away.
     
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    no i didnt vote this lot as you put in, if you look at all the swings away from labour thats what voted this lot in......... disgruntled labour supporters and why did that happen.......................... have a look around to see who there is to blame 'cos it cant be jezza et al
     
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    Do you think the current government is doing a good job?
     
  15. Marlon

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    Then I apologise i took from your comments (wrongly) that you had
    I do not follow a party blindly and your usage of sheep is far from the mark .
    Anybody reading my posts should imo know what my politics are and it doesn’t take a genius to work out which party I’ve voted for but that’s purely because of my politics not because of your lazy assumption that I’m blind .
     
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    thats a hard one really, gauged against what ?, other countries, what a labour govt under corbyn would have done. i'm classed as vunerable so i kept locked down in lockdown i saw young morons on the footy field next to me playing footy and drinking cans without a care in the world, should we have given the police more clearer powers, deffo, should we have locked down earlier deffo, should we have stopped uk citizens returning after lockdown, hard one, human rights, how do you stop the illegals crossing the channel, sink a couple of boats ? dunno, the track and trace good idea to try it on a small isolated area (iow) it didnt work so bin it deffo. the easing of restictions is a balancing act, country going bankrupt so no money for nhs, everything back to normal huge 2nd wave ?, what doesnt help is the lunatics protesting en masse. the rise in domestic violence, peoples mental health,so to try and answer your question honestly, i'm truly fu**ed if i know
     
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    Top copy and paste job Nudge you’ve excelled yourself , well done
     
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    Blair 2001 10,724,953
    Blair 2005 9,552,436
    Brown 2010 8,609,527
    Miliband 2015 9,347,273
    Corbyn 2017 12,878,460
    Corbyn 2019 10,269,051.
     
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    You managed to get to the second line without saying But Corbyn - congratulations.

    I think the clear answer is they've made an absolute balls of it, as everything you've posted is an example of this.

    I simply cannot understand how anyone would vote Tory after the lies, mistakes and contempt shown by this lot over the last 8 months or so.
     
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    well it would have been labour under corbyn wouldnt it, if they hadnt had such a wupping under his leadership. no one knew last december the extent of this virus and how world shattering it would be, but i'm sure jezza the great would have raised his hands and eradicated it with a wink of his marxist eye
     

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