Speaking as a published writer (I'm going to milk the Yorkshire Post article for all it's worth!!) , that is a very encouraging start Lucas . Keep up the good work .(Y)
That's "a load of scientists.......... .....WHO can't spell..." heh heh I think you're right Rich. I think the reason that grammar and spelling standards are at an all time low is that most of the teachers can't manage it themselves. And there's a big difference between the sneering attitude taken by Neutrino and Journo and helping the lad correct a few minor details which detract from the general credibility of the piece.
muppets - be ashamed SWFC fan, youngster - so what! Thing is he did something for himself but thought he would share it with "us" and he gets treated like that. It kept me reading until the end and much more informative and intersting than any other match report ive read on here. Most if which i find myself skim reading at best. Its always nice to get a view from a fan of another club! Especially a rival fan. He wrote that without an ounce of bias and im glad he enjoyed the occasion and he would be welcome back anytime - not that he would probably bother after some of the comments on here. I just hope he hasnt read them! If you have and are readin this well done! Keep it up.
Not a bad effort. Decent feature-type article rather than a straightforward match report. There are a couple of style points in there but that's for the sub-editors to sort out. Given that most schools don't teach journalism I thought it was very good. I was in an editorial position at a university newspaper for two years and would have been pleased if some of them had turned in work of that standard.
Caz love If he asks what the bbs thought, ignore the more sneering responses. Their posts say far more about them than they do about this young lad.
Exactly He should take some encouragement from some of the constructive criticism given here and build on his experience. Plus he's better than RK.
RE: Exactly It's a learning curve. As in everything else. Thought the lad was very brave subjecting his efforts to scrutiny of a harsh audience. And pmsl at your RK point.
RE: Exactly The fact is that he'll never get anything OTHER than a harsh audience in journalism. He really, truly won't. If he doesn't have a skin thick enough to cope with the criticism I levelled at him, then he will get a rude shock upon entering the profession. My points, however 'sneering' they might have been, are valid in terms of journalism. At 15, when I was an aspiring journalist, my style and standard of writing was infinitely better. Bear that in mind when you take on board The Watcher's point that I only ever rose to the 'dizzy heights' of Ananova.com. That is to say, a fairly large website. Not Fleet Street or the New York Times. I was decent, in other words - not the greatest reporter to have ever walked the earth, but not the worst, either. What chance then someone who cannot capitalise the names of places or spell 'dismay?' What future for him - even at 15 - without remedial action? I accept that some of my words were not nice. I don't like Sheffield Wednesday, or Sheffield Wednesday supporters. So bad luck, really. Had it been another Barnsley fan, he'd have been given the same criticisms, albeit couched in more palatable terms.
Shame. When I was not much older than him I fancied myself as a bit of a writer. Fortunately the garbage I turned out could not be so readily "reviewed" by local experts, as the internet scarcely even existed at the time. I hope the kid isn't put off by the comments above, as there is nothing in what he has written that suggests he won't be able to do something in the industry - I mean Christ, the standard in most local rags is hardly the stuff of Woodward and Bernstein. I don't often stick my neck out and risk making enemies on this board, but bloody hell Journo et al, you really should be ashamed of yourselves for trying to give this kid a kicking in the circumstances. Squirming retraction required from all concerned.
RE: Shame. His piece was littered with errors. Tell me that it wasn't? If a piece is littered with errors, it gets ripped to bits by a sub-editor, and you go away with a rocket up your backside. What would you like me to say: "Oh, wow, that's perfect! Go on, my son! Maintain that standard and you're a dead cert for a job?" In that case, I retract my earlier words. Everything's gravy.
**** me on a stick I've never heard so much ballacks in all my life. "I was so much better than him." ******* hell fire. Do you know what you sound like? Well let me tell you. You sound like a ******* tw4t.
and further.......... But he's 15 and at school. There wasn't any constructive criticism. No advice on how he could do better. Just insults aimed at his grammar and jibes about he must be 5 years old. From what I could glean that was a first attempt, not a report for the Daily Mirror. As I say, those with the insults, just demonstrated their own lack of grace and embarrassement at their own shortcomings.
RE: **** me on a stick Will you stop trying to promote French Connection clothes at every opportunity Jay. It's getting tedius. Incidently, your response made me laugh "let me tell you" indeed.
RE: Shame. And I bet the folk at the Star gave him constructive criticism and ideas for his future pieces. Just cos you've had your pants taken down and ****** by the profession don't heap your hang ups on a schoolkid.
RE: **** me on a stick Well, it's true. If it sounds arrogant, fair enough. Sorry for giving an opinion based on the evidence I can see. I won't have the temerity to do such a thing again. I mean, for ****'s sake. You HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SPELL, PUNCTUATE AND ARTICULATE YOURSELF IF YOU ARE TO BE ANY SORT OF A PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST. It's not optional. I have never claimed to be the ultimate authority on the subject, and, once again, nor was I the best reporter around. I could, however, do the basic things correctly. The piece above is appallingly bad. No two ways about it. If you can't accept that, then I don't know what more I can say.