Latest Brexit nonsense

No Helen, as we are not in the EU anymore. Also at border controls on mainland Europe, vehicles passed between countries if they were EU nationals,without being stopped. Even when the UK was still in the EU,because we are a island, it was difficult to have that frictionless crossing, like in land based countries.
I'm not sure what Mrs Patel is on about,no UK or EU citizen was allowed to enter the UK with just a ID card. I think the Conservative party conference, has shown a party and government that has run out of ideas already. Resorting to lies,misinformation and general arrogance, ie, " there is no alternative ".

 

Prior to Brexit EU nationals with qualified ID cards could use them to travel. Qualified ID documents are those which have reasonable security measures and are linked to Intel and security databases. These document counter measures had to be provided to other EU border agencies to ensure forgeries and counterfeits could be identified.
Each port had specialist forgery teams, not anymore. The training and retraining was continuous due to the nature of the threats.

Current policy..........answers on a post card or back of a cig packet.

Border Staff are currently overworked and basically keeping the show on the road by using their experience and common sense.
Communication is shocking and policy making is made off the cuff and you'll not be surprised to learn, not run by legal specialists.

 

To be fair, they aren't resorting to lies. They've lied from the start and just continued that to ever more ridiculous degrees.

I despair that there is still defence of this government from some quarters, irrespective of where the brexit lines were drawn. Thats done. We're now "sovereign"... whatever that means. Whats going on is the fault of the government thats been in power for 11 years. The government of the day should be judged on their actions and inactions.

They've failed. Whatever lies they muster should never be allowed to cloud that.

 

And speaking of nonsense... Dominic Raab wants to see an end to misogyny.... against men!

 

I thought the same until a night out in Bath, my Polish friend whips out his ID to get into a pub, only to be point blank refused by the bouncer. My friend explained that he was a UK resident and always used his Polish National ID to travel (no passport). The scumbag bouncer said it wasn't recognised over here so 'you're not coming in'. Funny how he travelled all round the EU/UK with it but got turned away from a sh1ty boozer in Bath. This was over 10 years ago, way before Breggers kicked in. I flew with him to Poland shortly after, out came the same ID to board the plane at Stansted: on we went.

 

2 pages in and I've not read all the posts so sorry.

But .

This id card. Is that the same thing that Gordon Brown wanted but everyone went off their nuts?

 

Absolute rubbish , are you telling me that anyone who wants to come to our country are none passport holders , its bunkum , we could not go to Europe before Brexit without a passport & it was the same the other way round , you could not come into England without a passport .

 

We couldn't go there without a passport because we don't have Id cards. They COULD come here with an Id card. FACT.

 

And your qualifications?

Only asking cos in this thread there’s at least one person who works for immigration who ‘knows’ the answer.

And the fact this thread started cos the government have just announced an end to something you’re saying didn’t happen.

 

Show me where a tourist COULD visit the UK on an ID card , FACTS only please

 

Qualifications ?

 

And to nick from News Thump, he’s against tax evasion whether it’s people evading tax or tax evading people.

 

Yes.

 

My German wife entered and left the UK on numerous occasions using just her German ID card, including one occasion when she "accidentally" found her ex-husband's passport in her handbag instead of her own

She can't any more of course, but I can assure you it was allowed back then.

 

OK we’re clearly all stupid.

Can you explain to us why Priti Patel has just announced an end to entry using just an ID card. If as you say, it was never possible, why the announcement?

 

I've done a lot of travelling to and through Europe. I've seen plenty of ID cards being used over the years, though not as many as passports. As Brush said, we don't have a national ID card, so it couldn't possibly be used.

Also whilst on the continent, travelling between countries is Well, for us, was, unbelievably swift and simple. Numerous times I've boarded a train in one country, and alighted in another. Often without having to show any documentation other than a ticket.

It largely seems to be in Britain where people have a wobble at the thought of people moving about going about their daily lives.