RE: On a day when the news is about one thing, Israelis killing Obviously those children were potential Hizbollah terrorists and therefore very dangerous. But apparently it was a terrible accident, just like the bombing of the UN building and the Red Cross in Lebanon were... Ehud Olmert says so, so it has to be true. Why would he say something that isn't true?
RE: Unfortunately those children will now never grow up! Yes, but they were potential terrorist children of potential terrorist parents, they had to be killed. It's better to be safe than sorry, you know. I agree with Windy here - I believe that Ehud Olmert and the brave Israeli heroes only want to fight for a better world. Because I'm not naive or anything.
Just out of interest Tomi Imagine for example that you are an Israeli living in Haifa.</p> A foreign terrorist organistion starts lobbing missiles at you </p> but they have put their missile launcher on the roof of a block of flats.</p> What would you want your government to do?</p> only 2 realistic options</p> 1. let it keep doing it</p> 2. Take it out but cant avoid killing innocent families beneath.</p> Both answers are wrong - whats the correct one?</p>
RE: Just out of interest Tomi I know, it's a very tricky situation, but the right way certainly isn't to bomb down whole cities, not giving a f*ck about Lebanese civilian casualties. Someone needs to get the Hizbollah and the Israeli fanatics around the same table to talk, but that probably wouldn't change anything either. Or maybe if UN wasn't so useless they could do something. Anyway, even if Israel bombed down all cities in Lebanon, there would still be Hizbollah terrorists left somewhere and they would just become even more fanatic and the killing would never end. I know it sounds very hippyish, but violence is never a good solution for anything.
Its OK though From the "rapture ready" forum </p> http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=268239</p> Considering the Children <hr style="COLOR: #d1d1e1" size="1" /></p><div id="post_message_3428510">I don't know if this has been discussed before, because I haven't been here much. But, in light of the number of children being killed in the middle east (and Asia) by natural disasters and wars, people are asking how a loving God can allow such a thing. This morning, a number of children were killed by Israeli bombs. While tragic, Israel (according to Fox News) warned of the bombing as long as a week ago. Has anyone considered that God is taking children to Heaven Himself? Especially indoctrinated Muslims. If they were left here to endure the Tribulation, their chances of being saved are (in my estimate) very slim. On the other hand, if God is removing them because He's getting ready to rain down His Wrath, it is a very LOVING thing to do. What do y'all think?</div><div>__________________ </div><div></div><div></div><div>Trouble is Many Americans actually believe this - just as bad as the muslim extremests if you ask me</div>
Oh dear I know that religion gives hope and comfort for many people, but sometimes I think that the world would be a much better place if there were no gods or religions... How anyone can use some stupid religion as an excuse for killing others is beyond me! I don't have anything against religious people of course, as long as they're sensible and don't use it as an excuse for anything or try to brainwash me with it.
Thing is with religion is, that it is, in general terms just a case of what part of the world you were born in, and no matter how strongly you believe in your version you will always be in a minority cause the rest of the world together believe in summat else. So conversion to your team is always an uphill task. I think that the americans are not trying to convert the other lot, easier and quicker to obliterate em.....
I think you'll find the Hezbollah rocket attacks on Haifa are a response to the Israeli shelling and bombing of Lebanon and the subsequent invasion of Lebanon, they were not the cause.
I'm sorry, I just see 37 dead children as the only point worth making about Lebanon today. 37 dead children. At least the Israelis are getting good use out of the bunker busting bombs they've just ordered.
Israel killed 4 unarmed UN soldiers last week as well who kept calling them to ask them to stop trying Nobody is really covering themselves in glory in this one.
I think that's up there with some of the sickest things I've ever read It's only a short step from there to. I'm doing this killing myself as an instrument of God, and by doing it I'm saving these infidel children from eternal damnation
RE: I think you'll find the Hezbollah rocket attacks on Haifa are a Whilst I sympathise entirely with the Israeli peoples situation you can't condone their Government's entirely disproportionate actions that are only going to cause more trouble and give support to Hezbollah. To look at it another way... Imagine if after the IRA bombings in Northern Ireland the UK Government had chosen to react by bombing Dublin, Cork and other Irish cities in an attempt to "wipe-out the IRA" because the Irish government "hadn't done enough to disarm them". Imagine if they'd have invaded the Republic of Ireland by sending UK tanks and soldiers there and fought battles in Irish villages and towns. Imagine if all this had killed 600+ innocent Irish civilians. Would this have been acceptable? Would it have succeeded? It's pretty cheeky that the Israeli government claims that Hezbollah are using civilians as "human shields". Many have no cars, no petrol, no money and given that Israel have bombed Red Cross convoys and blown up cars with civilians in them then its no wonder some choose to remain in their basements. Besides Israel isn't frightened of using "human shields" itself.... http://hrw.org/english/docs/2002/05/03/isrlpa3899.htm
And with those 37 dead children in mind......... .....perhaps attacking the local headquarters of the main player in the efforts to bring about a cease fire might not be such a good idea after all eh? Penny dropped?
RE: And with those 37 dead children in mind......... A ceasefire will only occur when the US Government tells Israel to stop its offensive. This is as much their proxy war as it is Israel's own war. The US last week vetoed a UN resolution which demanded that the fighting stop. Given the US can veto any resolution then its clear to see who has the power. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/13/mideast.response/index.html Yes Mr Bolton, clearly a UN resolution demanding the fighting stop would "inflame the situation." War is Peace.
I think you'll find the attack on the empty UN building was a crowd showing their frustration at the lack of actually getting anything done whilst women and children are targetted and killed. A spontaneous response, I can see why it happened and I'm sure the UN can too, at least they didn't bomb anyone from the UN!
You can see why it happened? They attacked the headquarters because they view the UN as a symbol of the West. It was stupid, pointless and counterproductive. Actually I can see why you would sympathise with such an action.
Blah blah link c&p blah The UN is the major player in trying to bring about a cease-fire and attacking their headquarters was stupid. .