Left Wing Post. Pre Thatcher Britain

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  1. Skryptic

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    No, the Tories require 50% of the available electorate to turn up, and then half of them plus one would have to vote for strike action. So that'd be 25% + 1. Keep up.
     
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    It will be a brave person who can predict the state of British Politics say 5 years from now.
     
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    Wtf you on
    It's 50% of the entire union membership has to vote for strike action keep up .have another google
     
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    So that would be fair then. More than half of the people who need their modest and more often than not essential income must vote positively to stop that income before they all suffer lost earnings.

    Genuinely I'm fecked if I can see what's wrong with that. Appart from the more than slightly bonkers and hypocrtical way in which we elect a parliament so that 1.5million traitors in scotland get 50 odd MP's and 3 million plus traitors in England get 1 MP. And 1/6th of the population have voted for the people that run the shop and are making this rule

    This rule would be the highest standard of fairness - the only unfairness is that the rule applied to a select group. the people the tories don't like. But fundamentally it's fair - is it not.

    But what have I missed?
     
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    23% of the eligible electorate voting in a majority government surely says more about voter apathy, and the first past the post system than anything else, does it not?
     
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    I'm chuffed that Corbyn is in the driving seat, and I think he's riding the wave of a real movement. Look at Greece - anything can happen.

    The Miliband era was a time where the Labour party stood for nothing. What was the alternative that they were suggesting to the Tories? How could the public elect a party with nothing strong on offer (I did vote for him btw)?

    The Tories ares scared of what could happen, hence the constant media abuse that he's had before and after his landslide victory.

    The electoral system is a mess by the way - UKIP and Greens got over 4 million votes between them in the last election, but only got 3 seats between them. Barmy!
     
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34241810

    "The government wants to impose a minimum 50% turnout in strike ballots - with public sector strikes also requiring the backing of at least 40% of those eligible to vote."

    50% turnout does not mean 50% of the eligible electorate has to vote for it, it means 50% of eligible members have to vote, and then half of them, 25% + 1 would have to vote in favour of a strike. The second part, requiring 40% of eligible members to vote for strike action only applies to public sector services. I don't think it's absurd to expect slightly over a third of essential workers to want to strike before they can bugger off. Feel free to Google more about it, or perhaps just look at something a bit more on your level.
     
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    It's been reported that his shadow chancellor is an IRA sympathizer, is this true?
     
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    I think that is EXACTLY where he stands.

    I put myself in the category of those that earn enough to pay more .
     
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    No, like most people he thinks that murdering is wrong.

    He does, however, have sympathy for the position of the Catholics in Northern Ireland and the way they have been treated.
     
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    I'm not sure Greece is a great example to be honest - their country is well and truly broken and I dont see how they can recover

    My problem is both main parties have policies I fundamentally disagree with absolutely no idea how I will vote in the next election. I dont think Corbyn will get elected - he will get the core labour vote back but the vast majority of floating voters will be terrified he will wreck the economy and shaft our defence forces.
     
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    The problem is both Corbyn and his chancellor believe Ireland should be re-united - against the wishes of the protestant majority in Northern Ireland.
    And I find it hard to support anyone who at an IRA gathering in support of Bobby Sands came out with "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table." - direct quote from John McDonnell in 2003

    Corbyns views on the Falklands arent going to be popular either
     
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    Hi Rosco, I worked with a Catholic from NI when I was in South Africa, and he told me of the discrimination against the Catholics from the 60's and 70's, was an eye-opener to me. That's thankfully in the past now but this guy couldn't let it go, he basically hated the English. There is a time to let go of the past and move on.
     
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    In my opinion talking to people instead of shooting them or locking them up without due legal process is preferable.

    It won Tony Blair a lot of brownie points & has lead to a much better northern ireland. Shame Blair followed W Bush into Iraq.....

    If anyone thinks that the middle east problem without dealing with the fate of the Palestinians they are deluded.

    Saying you will talk to people does not make you a sympathiser.
     
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    If people base their vote on what they think is best for the Falklands then the world's knackered. That must be about 4,789th on my list of priorities.
     
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    This.
     
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    They will undoubtedly recover. They have a brilliant country. Whether they stay in the Euro is another matter.

    I'm pro European but was very sceptical about some of these countries joining the Euro.
    They rely heavily on tourism & a weak exchange rate helped them massively in the past.

    In reality Greece & Spain need to root out the endemic corruption in their countries, but that may take decades.
     
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    Maybe if it came from politicians who practised what they enforce.this do as I say and not what I do attitude is not my idea f democracy even if you think so.
     
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    The problem is that he is essentially correct. And this has been the case in many other parts of the world (particularly where Britain has been involved). It is perhaps worth noting the thoughts of several of our erstwhile Tories on Nelson Mandela:

    'The ANC is a typical terrorist organisation ... Anyone who thinks it is going to run the government in South Africa is living in cloud-cuckoo land' - Margaret Thatcher, 1987

    'How much longer will the Prime Minister allow herself to be kicked in the face by this black terrorist?' - Terry Dicks MP, mid-1980s

    'Nelson Mandela should be shot' - Teddy Taylor MP, mid-1980s

    Today's terrorist - tomorrow's freedom fighter ??
     
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    erm. I think that's what I just said.
     

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