Lets hope today, justice will be done

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  1. Father Benny Cake

    Father Benny Cake Well-Known Member

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    RE: Just cos he's "loaded" does not give him the excuse not to be law abiding and have MOT or Insura

    Glad you've cleared that up. That really supports your case.</p>

    I stand corrected.</p>

    (cough)</p>
     
  2. D/T

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    why would anyone want to rape him? they'll get something. OTher than that away with the key/...
     
  3. Gue

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    Hope he gets a long sentence

    He has been given warnings so often, it's become a joke with him. He is costing us, the taxpayer, with all this court time. I have no time for him or any other smackheads.
     
  4. Gue

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    I never understand why people have such a problem with Pete Doherty.

    The bloke is a drug addict and has made a lot of mistakes but personally he has done nothing to offend me. I really don't see why anyone would be desperate for him to go to prison. In what way do you believe that sending him to prison would be 'justice'? Surely sending him to rehab is far better option, I think it's more important for him to get clean and get over his vice's than to be imprisoned, he isn't exactly a menace to the public (despite what the tabloids will have you believe). The reality is he's just a troubled young man whose problems have been very highly publicised. I think nezbfc's comments just stink of ignorance.
     
  5. BFC Dave

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    should be treated as everyone else would be.. no better, no worse.
     
  6. nezbfc

    nezbfc Well-Known Member

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    well, ignorance is one thing

    but its equally as ignorant when you haven't got a clue why I say such comments....


    First hand experience with people I know involved in this type of drug usage, and what it does to the people around them, there families and kids (including pinching there own son's game boy what he had given for christmas 1 week before to sell just so they can get a few more "hits"), and you would understand why I say such comments.

    crack/heroin users, when under complete influence and addiction to these type of drugs, do nothing but harm and hurt them around them. Scum of the earth. And that is also saying it nicely
     
  7. Ori

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    Since when did having a different opinion amount to ignorance?

    I happen to agree with Nez. The fact that the junkie has done nothing to me personally doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on what sort of punishment should be meted out to criminals. That's like suggesting you can't have an opinion on Roy Whiting unless it was your daughter he kidnapped, raped and killed.

    This 'pop star' has had warning after warning after warning. I note what you say about rehab and I wouldn't say that you were ignorant for suggesting that. I do however think you are wrong. People enter these so called rehabs as a means of avoiding jail not of making themselves clean. My opinion is that going cold turkey in a prison cell is the only way. I may be wrong and there may be may be medics who can scientifically prove the contrary, it doesn't make my opinion ignorant though.
     
  8. BFC Dave

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    I understand you and I agree with you

    that drug abuse is destructive on both the user and their family and friends. Should they be treated or imprisioned? well I don't know what the sucess rate is for treatment, I'm just saying that Doherty deserves the same treatment as anyone else who has his problem.</p>

    Whilst we're on about it, what about the other destroyer of families the legal drug, alcohol and the 'love taps' which result in black eyes and busted lipsgiven to wives and girlfiends when hubbieshavehad one over the eight. Treat them or gaol them ? a drug addict is a drug addict. (personally I'd throw the fecking book at them)</p>

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  9. nezbfc

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    RE: I understand you and I agree with you

    well all I can say on my experience,

    treatment can't be looked at as a solution to everyone. in some cases it is never going to work, the treatment they are offered under one of these vile drugs is methadone, (all on the NHS I might add), and whats the first thing this user did with it... Flog it to her mates to get hold of some hard real stuff. Never turned up to any re-hab, constantly under watch by the pigs etc...

    The only way this particular case is going to be solved is either

    Cold turkey by being locked up (then surprise suprise, what happens, they get Methadone whilst in the nick otherwise there human rights and treatment is brought in, and they are let out on the streets before full treatment is done)

    or

    they overdose and end up 6 feet under


    I don't think I can look at it in the same light as other drug usage, as I haven't come across this type of abuse, but all drug problems should be looked on an a case by case basis (in my opinion), hats off to the ones who have been successfull in treatment centres and have turned there life around, but the ones who have "had a chance" and still don't, ought to be put in a secure unit and forced to be re-habilitated....
     
  10. BFC Dave

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    RE: I understand you and I agree with you

    fair enough though I still stand by my statement that Doherty should receive the same treatment at anyone else, whether that treatment is correct, well that's another matter.</p>

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  11. RichK

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    Couldn't really care less either way. (dunno)
     
  12. Gue

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    RE: Since when did having a different opinion amount to ignorance?

    '(i hope)... he gets locked up and gang raped by five 20 stone brutes until his chocolate star rips. (and thats being kind).'

    Just to clarify this is what I was refering to as ignorant. I agree that he deserves exactly the same treatment as anyone else, I just don't see what prison would achieve for a repeated drug user, he's been to jail before and openly admits how easy it was to get drugs there so it's no even as if he'd get clean. Personally i feel in a civilised society we should be promoting rehabilitation over punishment.
     
  13. Xer

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    For the drink drivers

    'Let them off time after time. Driving without insurance and banned - no problem. Pop stars do the same. I DEMAND the same treatment. That makes it fair.' No wonder the UKs gone to the dogs.
     
  14. Father Benny Cake

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    RE: For the drink drivers

    Driving without insurance and MOT is a bit different from drink driving and driving without insurance whilst banned.
     

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