Let's not all blame Wilson

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  1. bar

    barnsleyjoe Active Member

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    One of a managers main role is to indentify the ability of a player; simple passes, marking, finishing and concentration is a part of a player and he can sign or get rid of them.
     
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    How can Danny be responsible for Cole not being able to hit a cows arse with a banjo or for the lapses of concentration that keep costing us goals? I'm not saying he is blameless but ffs the 'professional' players have to take some responsibility while they are doing their jobs.
     
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    Be brought Treacy in and knew his reputation before he brought him in, no matter how technically good he is.

    Was he really good enough for us getting relegated into a hard League 1 season? Was he ****! Danny Wilson is the only person to blame for the squad as well as team selection and it's thick not knowing it.
     
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    twillo Well-Known Member

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    It's up to Wilson to do his research in the player as well as trust him
     
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    OK so when we were all applauding the signings of Lita, Treacy, et al we should have expected Danny to have polished his crystal ball. He can only do so much on the training pitch, the rest is up to the players. Danny can set the team out (he is responsible for the tactics, formation and the personnel picked) but it isn't his fault when they can't find a man from four yards. That is personal responsibility and the players need to start taking some.
     
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    The players he brought in are well capable of that as their previous performances have proven ,when he signed some of these players I was ecstatic knowing what they could do. They have to take some responsibility because this scenario is being p!aged at nearly every club.if the formation,team selection etc is wrong then Wilson will/should get blame but some players need a good kick up the backside.otherwise it won't matter who the manager is.
     
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    Not all of us were, mate. I expected both to be like this.
     
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    Thats exactly my point we all knew his reputation but the fact he chooses to fek abart is or should be on his back.
     
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    I had some doubts too mate but my point stands. Its OK blaming Danny for everything but professional footballers have to take responsibility for the basics once the game starts.
     
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    Come on Mario.


    I understand some players need to take some responsibility and totally agree with you on that front but it's up to Wilson to sort it out.

    I agree with you that professional footballers need to be more motivated in whatever way and need to treat their lovely job like we do but we all know that's not gonna happen.

    We support our football team because we love them and it's full of opinions and no one can take that away from any football fan but people need to come and realise that professional football is about managers trying to get the best out of their players on the pitch and that's it. Managers get the worse part of it but they know that in the modern game when taking the role.
     
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    All the p!Ayers are/should be capable of those things ffs.they choose not to in certain situations when they should be giving a service for their money.the fact they can fek abart cos they've got monk on is a fekin disgrace and is in need of addressing.
     
  12. Whi

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    I don't. But I'm struggling to back him after today. Thing that saves him for me is the fact I don't see another bloke making such a difference with what I'm starting to feel is a pretty ***** squad full of soft, losers. Again.

    Seriously, look at the Walsall side today. Never heard of most of em. Had a bairn making his debut at left back. Yet we're defending Danny because he's without a few players? We had Cranie, Nyatanga, Turnbull, Jennings, Hourihane, Trotta and Cole in the side today, with Lita off the bench. Summat dunt add up.

    Been crying out for an experienced head in midfield. We had one n all. But Danny got shut and we've had members of The Only Way Is Essex trotting around in midfield all season.


    Worst start in 50 years, at Oakwell, allegedly. And now our away form's going back to normal.


    You'd have to be barmy not to understand the criticism aimed at Danny right now. It doesn't mean I want a change though. I'm just agreeing with the doubters regards current form. It's ******* ****. Can't pretend otherwise.
     
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    Mario does your manager pick a different workforce every week and change operational procedures to suit the workforce he as picked? Oh and do you only work a 90 minute week. Thought not, so there is no comparison really! Unfortunately, football managers have to play the cards they are dealt. Some have the ability to adjust their strategy to suit the cards dealt and still come out with points on the board. Danny is currently struggling in that department. I don't necessarily mind us losing so long as what I am seeing is a team that is well structured and playing the right way. I cannot honestly say that a been the case in recent weeks with the problem being the tactics currently deployed by Danny, The buck stops with him I'm afraid,
     
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    Do you think he's lost the players and they're now just going through the motions and don't give a flying ****.
     
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    As I've said Danny should be held responsible for things like formation, tactics and personnel, I have no argument with this but we're not playing Sunday league players, they are professional footballers who are losing games because they can't do the basics. This is unacceptable and they have to take their share of the blame.
     
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    Sad state of affairs if so.
     
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    I hope it isn't the case but it's starting to look like there is something badly wrong somewhere.
     
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    i'd find it difficult to believe that the players he brought in, have turned on him already. i think it's a combination of a few things. quality, formation, injury, squad selection, confidence. we're in a spiral now and it's tough to break that.

    i think the pressure on him in the january window now, is going to be significant. everyone will be acutely aware of the shambles brought in last january, when they hit the panic button to try and save our season. it looks like we're going to be in exactly the same boat
     
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    This spiral theory is what is worrying me too. I fear that the pressure may become too intense and change will be forced on the club. Making a change now will be costly in more ways than just finances in my humble opinion.
     
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    The decisions he makes with subs has been very poor for me as well, the Brown sub decision last week was just unbelievable!! I also see a lack of passion and fight in most of the games, we never come out firing in a 2nd half as well!! I just get the impression at times that Danny is going through the motions!!!

    Nigel Adkins might be out of a job soon, worth a punt maybe? Show we mean business!! I just want someone to come in and really get a team fired up and putting tackles in as well as playing some decent football. Don't expect to win every week, but we can score goals, we just need to have more heart & passion from 1-11....like under Flicker for those 5 months!!
     

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