Levelling up, Barnsley..

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  1. Brush

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    Dream on....
     
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    Nothing really changes, it just gets more and more blatant. Yet people are still fooled by it.
     
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    I think that’s what’s most depressing. Just look at social media and people just take it in.
     
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    Utter clap trap
     
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    Just confirms my post. So not me that should be dreaming on.

    Shame we had to leave but cba to go into it for the 1000th time about the EU having no appetite to reform apart from more entwinement.

    Then the stock response about being able to change it being part of the club nonsense.

    But if you want to believe that you can make a fair comparison to anything post brexit without factoring in the issues that I mentioned, then so be it because your chosen media outlet told you what to believe.

    Certainly not going to have a leave v remain debate yet again.

    It's certainly been messed up by both the Tories and the EU negotiators, but it is what it is.

    Peace out.
     
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    Refer you to my last post seen as you are also a pandemic and ukraine war denier.

    Obviously had zero affect..

    Happy to help.
     
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    It’s in the Guardian so it must be true!!
     
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    About as good a read as the Sun rag or the Daily Mail is the Guardian.

    Can't think of a newspaper that is worth reading, they all are politically motivated one way or another so just force-fed one sided storytelling.

    Never buy them anymore, apart from sometimes the chron for the football and that's once a blue moon.
     
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    OBR - Brexit is a year on year 4% hit to our economy. Post Brexit trade deals a 0.01% benefit. Where exactly is the the other 3.99% coming from mate?

    We could have left the EU and joined EFTA remaining in the single market (which the EU wanted) but no, the right-wing nut jobs now running the Tory party wouldn't accept it. Now we can't even do that because Norway is so disgusted by our behaviour that they would object to our membership. If our government were to behave properly the EU would be happy to negotiate a decent deal. Typical of a Brexiteer to blame the EU when it is ALL our fault.

    The pandemic and Ukraine affected everyone but everything seems to be worse here, odd that, what with our wonderful vaccine roll-out (not affected by leaving the EU because we were still fecking in it).
     
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    And we can't even introduce full checks on incoming goods as it would be too damaging to the country...
     
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    Given the hit to GDP that’s a direct result of Brexit of about 4% added to the cost of Covid and Ukraine plus the added bonus of 30 Billion added to the debits following the Truss debacle there’s no money for anything.

    Of course the many people how said our economy would be hit and it would just be used to attack employment rights etc were remoaners as the tories divide and rule tactics worked.

    The north gets exactly what it deserves now for swallowing the lies. There is no and never was an intention to ‘level up’ but a cursory glance at the tories history should have told them that. People round here needed showing that giving the tories your trust will have serious impacts.
     
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    We had most certainly left the EU when the vaccine rollout commenced.

    I also disagree that other countries are not feeling the global crisis as much as the UK.

    As for the trade deals, at the moment yes they don't stack up but I'd never expect it to be at the same level for a good few years as other deals are negotiated.

    I would rather pay higher taxes for better services and have a smaller economy purely not to be politically entwined to the EU.

    Should never have been more than a trading bloc but they refused to switch off the power vacuum and their only vision is more union and political entwinement.
     
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    I don't even buy The Chronicle anymore since they did that front page advert for the tories one election time.
     
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    If this is genuinely the main reason you still believe, after everything that has happened, that leaving was the right choice for the country, I honestly don't know what to say. The pandemic and Ukraine war have obviously had a huge negative impact on the economy and living standards, to say our current situation is solely down to Brexit is idiotic. But to deny that it too has had a catastrophic effect on the country is just as ignorant.
     
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    What's your view on lack if investment in the north compared to what the EU used to invest?
     
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    We left the EMA on 31st of January 2020 by which time vaccine development had begun in the UK (we had been studying and developing coronavirus vaccines since SARS in the early 2000s). After that we did NOTHING that we couldn't have done while still in the EMA and are now lagging behind the rest of Europe.
     
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    Are you in the Rees-Mogg wait 50 years camp then? I hope your grandkids thank you for it...
     
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    Remind me, who is the MP for Richmond?
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    It’s not levelling up it’s just levelling ,
     

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