It achieved 56 points didn't it? Same as the 2012-13 season, give or take a point. Huge difference in quality of those squads on show. I think 17th with those laikers was underachieving.
I wouldn't call Bassett a failure and also he wasn't sacked, he left by mutual consent at his own suggestion.
Jim Iley actually seems to tick the boxes. Shows what a plonker I was in my teens (still am now I've become Victor Meldrew).
That reight 12-13 we got 55 pts. That season we also had Greening, Tudgay, Delap on loan - players would had been at top Championship clubs and some Premier League appearances. I think Flicker had the better squad than Robins and as we well know, the more expensive one.
We really need someone who would excel in the role Perhaps there's some sort of formula we could use to find him.
Not sure about that, but I appreciate your opinion. I said it on my podcast thing yesterday, there's **** all between any of the managers employed in the last decade. You could attack or defend any of them.
Re: We really need someone who would excel in the role Like a search for a new Dalai Lama perhaps..find one as an infant
The era of classic football anthems. Liverpool "You'll Never Walk Alone" Stoke City "Delila" Barnsley F.C " Iley Out".
Even if we could identify a manager who ticks all those boxes there's still no guarantee it'd work out for him. Or we could identify a manager who doesn't tick any of those boxes and it does work out. That's the way it is IMO, I think our past appointments show that. It's a 50/50 on any appointment. So Danny Wilson it is.
Do you know who ticks (well did apart from the last one now) all those boxes. We employed him Keith bloody hill. That turned out well smart. So you have to question why 13 managers have failed. You have to look deeper than the manager. That's it
Cast Thy guilt away my son. I think as Barnsley Fans we have paid for that misunderstanding TEN FOLD in the ensuing years
Glad you explained the other day. Because up until then I genuinely believed everyone still hated him
Some may still do, old mate. I first began to change my mind after listening to Allan Clarke singing Jim Iley's praises just after we'd won promotion from the old Fourth Division at the end of the 1978/79 season. It began to occur to me and my over inflated ego that I wasn't as clever or knowledgeable as I foolishly thought I was.
If it is 50:50, how come we are currently standing at 0:12 on the last 12. My point is, why throw more money down the drain with odds like that.
Because each appointment is a standalone event. 1 has no bearing on the next. You've stated some criteria that a manager should have, but as pointed out our 2, even 3 maybe 4, most successful managers had few if any of those. There's no science to it. And I'd argue that since Bassett it's been a very tough job to have success in.
So as I understand it, what you are saying is, the longer that Clarke and Wilson did the job, the worse they got. Somebody asked John Dennis once what the most important quality was in his new managerial appointment. I hope that he will be lucky, he replied. Perhaps we should search every applicant for lucky cats paws etc, rather than check their CV. Seriously, as Whitey says, there is nothing between any of them. One manager is pretty much like another. A successful guy today is a failure tomorrow doing all the same things. If you stick with one long enough, his luck will change.