you start fresh as it is a new season and it is a chance for the manager to improve as it is for the players and what happen in the past has gone, you restart on a level playing field with every other club in terms of points/games played and where you were last season means nothing or how you played because it does not effect your current position but changing a manager after 3 games would not solve anything. Although I agree if into a new season 18-23 games in we have a losing mentality and we are having a nightmare of a time then yeah obviously the situation would need to be reviewed just not now which is plain stupid! Sometimes no matter what happens stability helps a club in the long term, Charlton relegated from the prem under AC but they stuck with him, Colin Calderwood at Forrest could easily have been sacked by now, Steve Coppell at Reading and I wonder if Sheff U wished they had a Mr Warnock still? So having faith and paitence can pay off but in true BFC fashion fans are on the managers back 3 games into a new season!
You should be old enough and wise enough not to get excited about a might be. Bet you were well gutted when you realised there was no father christmas. Keep it real. Seems some fans use supporting BFC as an excuse to vent there anger at all life frustrations. Watched em 40years and take rough with smooth.
But the club hyping things up still remains a fact then? Regardless of whether you've supported them for 40 years or not. Believe me, my expectations have remained low for a long time.
I didn't get excited by anything the club said it was trying to do. So in my eyes the club didn't raise my expectations, they merely stated their intentions to pursue Phillips. You would be first to complain, as would many others were on here when the club doesn't keep the fans informed of their intentions. I get excited or otherwise by what happens not what might happen.
Patrick Cryne did say That we were aiming for a top half finish and that significant funds would be available for transfers. I wouldn't blame anyone if their expectations were raised on hearing that.
I would, if you have watched Barnsley long enough. He said 'aiming' not 'expecting to' there is a difference. I would expect them to aim for as high a position as is reasonable possible. Would have looked stupid if he said we were aimimng to get relegated. I would always set aims to be higher than expectations that is why it is a challenge.
Then he should not have made his aims public. If you are aiming for the top half but can only provide resources to realistically reach lower mid table at very best then its foolish and misleading to inform your stakeholders that you are aiming higher than you know you can reach. As a result making such aims public will clearly increase expectancy from the fans.
Cryne told the Yorkshire Evening Post: 'He will have significant funding behind him. It's not extravagant in the sense of Premiership teams, or the funds available to those teams with parachute payments. Alongside Blackpool, the Reds are favourites to be relegated from the Championship this season, but everyone at Oakwell is determined to prove the doubters wrong once again: 'But we recognise that we need to be competitive in relation to the targets we have set so the manager will have significant funding. We can't recruit the Ronaldos, but we can recruit people to perform creditably and we have the funds to do that. 'Now it's up to Simon whom he sees as playing for us.' Hume is the ONLY signing we have made that fits into what was described above. Whats happened?
Who says they can't achieve it. It a target, like all stakeholders expect companies to achieve difficult targets. Not ones that are easily met without putting in effort. I believe mid table is a realistic target, don't necessarily belive we will do it but it's not totally unachievable
So why would Phillips come to Barnsley ahead of Birmingham?? See nothing wrong with Crynes statement.
Yes but the point is that a lot of fans have had expectations raised because of the noises coming out of the club over the summer. So if some people are unhappy with signings and results since then you can see why.
These words: "....we recognise that we need to be competitive in relation to the targets we have set..." Just test my interpretation of that for me: what he's saying is to achieve a top half finish (target) we need to be competitive on wages and transfer fees (significant funding). Have I got it wrong?
RE: you start fresh If these were his first three games as manager then I would accept your point but it's more like 73 games and we are still talking about the same silly mistakes, the same questionable tactics, the same lack of man management skills. The only thing thats changed, are some of the names and we still, generally, have that losing mentality. How much longer do we have to wait for him to show some signs of growing up and learning his trade. When I was 15 years old, I began an apprenticeship in the printing trade. If, by the time I was 161/2 I was still making the same mistakes that I made at 15, I would have been out on my ear and with good reason. IMHO that premise also applies to a football manager and especially to Simon Davey.
Well if you want to continually dissect every word coming from the club that's upto you, and then feel dissapointed when the expectation might not be met thats up to you. i'll just continue to support em unconditionally whatever
It's not healthy to let anyone or anything rule without question and to elevate them to a status beyond reproach.
So you challenge everything and everyone. I prioritise, and am happy to let the people paid to run the club, do it. That's not to say I agree with every appointment and decision by the club and if things get to a state I'm not happy with i'll express my concern. Don't think we are anyway near that though, and will always back the manager and players (whoever). Must be more tolerent than most on hear. Some submitters on here are by far more negative than positive and just glad I don't live inside their heads.
By getting my negativity out on these boards I am then free to live a happy and carefree life away from my Mac.
nuff said. Why do it at BFC expense, why not go to a politics board and have a pop at that set of ankers. Then come and here and say nice things lol