Madeline McCann...

RE: Why?

Hardly.</p>

There's a difference between parental scum, and normally good parents who make a bad decision, whatever their background.</p>

 

RE: why? nt

I'm simply saying what my opinion is-I think there's more to it than we are being told-that's all

 

im with you mate

something fishy is going on

 

I know that and you know that...

but our media?

 

So you're saying that to vilify is OK ?

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That's why I said it said more about him than the parents.</p>

To me the kind of person who would vilify the parents of a missing child... well I just think it is a sad reflection on that person.</p>

regardless of the facts of who did what and who is resposible. </p>

Why would you even want to go down that road?</p>

This blame culture is destroying this country.</p>

 

Don't think anybody's vilifying them. Just stating that

it was an irresponsible thing to do for the very reason as has happened. The blame that will live with them for the rest of their lives is the blame they will put on themselves for leaving the kids unattended.

 

Same could be said about any risk with hindsight

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Should never have left the back door open.</p>

Should have made sure all the plugs in the house have safety covers.</p>

Should never have let them go in the waters edge/sea</p>

Should never have driven the car so fast with the kids in it.</p>

Should never have let them climb that tree.</p>

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As parents we all make risk assessments for our kids all the time. Thankfully thosethat have gone wrongusually result in</p>

scrapped knees and tears. All tragedies are preventable if you take no risk whatsoever. But then we do all have lives to lead.</p>

Can't believe you've never let your kids put themselves at any kind of risk ? Only way to to that is to lock em up 24/7</p>

 

Don't really want to get into this

...but would you leave your 3 kids unattended whether abroad or not?

I'd agree that you do take "risks" with your kids based on probability - it's one of the many ways in which they develop their own assessment of potential pitfalls - but, sorry, there's no way in the world myself or mrs would ever leave our kids alone at that age - or a darn sight older for that matter.

The parents must, imo, shoulder some of the responsibility.

If it were two teenage parents on asbo's who'd left their kids unsupervised instead of two doctors they'd be rightly vilified.

 

It is one out of a number of possibilities

I would expect the police to have investigated that possibility.

 

RE: Don't think anybody's vilifying them. Just stating that

I'm sure the parents of Madeline have reproached themselves on countless occasions and will regret what was a very short sighted decision for the rest of their lives.</p>

What I find truly revoltingare the unfounded observationsby some people, whoappear to think that the parents might know something more abouther disappearance, whatever that is supposed to mean.</p>

Disgusting!</p>

 

'rightly vilified' ... as in they deserve it ... mmm

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Perhaps they should be made to stand some sort of public trial ... to make us all feel better /poo </p>

 

Of course it is..

... and I'm sure it has been ruled out quite positively.</p>

 

Get it right mate

"'rightly vilified' ... as in they deserve it"

I didn't and wouldn't say they deserved it - being a parent it's everyones worst nightmare and I sympathize whole-heartedly.

What I was alluding to was that peoples perceptions (and more-over those of our wonderful press) would be entirely different if the parental circumstances were altered.

But I don't care who you are, you don't leave your kids unattended while you're out on the razz/dining etc.

 

Maybe I'm being pedantic but

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I would have thought that's exactly what 'rightly vilified' meant ... they are deserving of it</p>

Anyway, that aside, I agree the press side of things would be very different if the parents were different, but I/you cant blame them for that surely.</p>

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As for leaving them unattended whilst 'on the razz' [you paint a good non prejudicial picture there ]. My understanding is that they could see the apartment from where they were sat. They were making frequent trips back. But whether they could or they couldn't, is it any different from letting your kids play in the back garden whilst you ... watch telly, clean the car ...do some ironing ...make their tea. if they are out of your sight are you being negligent if someone pops over the fence ?</p>

 

RE: Maybe I'm being pedantic but

Reading it back, I can see what you mean and "rightly" may have been used in the wrong context.

As for if they were playing in the garden, that's a place you and they are familiar and happy with. You know the neighbourhood and are aware of local problems etc. In other words, you make an assessment based on your knowledge.

IMO, it's vastly different when you're hundreds/thousands of miles from home.

You can't eliminate every danger but you can definately reduce the risk.

At the end of the day, we can all look at the situation in hindsight but I'm certain we all long for the overdue, safe return of Madelaine.

 

Now hold on a minute .... don't you dare come on here

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and be intimating that there's a possibility of you being wrong .... who do you think you are </p>

This board has rules you know !!! and rule No.1 is never, ever, ..... even if they are just about to shut the internet .... ever admit</p>

that anything you did could be even slightly erroneous !!! What are you trying to do, set some sort of precedence .... well you can take your fancy welsh ways and ... </p>

Aye fella ... lets just hope she's found safe and well ....</p>

 

thats because the parents normally get on with trying to find their children rather than trying to gain some publicity for themselves. </p>

Has anybody else thought it a bit odd that if you ignore the stuff that the press has done off its own back then almost ALL of the things that the mccanns have done have been things that get their own image out there rather than that of their daughter? ie Meeting the pope and making a big tv do about it, inviting the press to come and watch them sunbathing on the beach, tv interviews in several countries (countries where there is VERY little chance that anybody knows anything) etc.</p>

I've also looked on google earth and the restaurant/bar that they were drinking in isn't as close to thehotel room as they would have you think and the route between the two isnt direct so I really doubt that they kept checking back as they claim.</p>

 

Yuk! nt

 

yuk? nt

 

RE: So you're saying that to vilify is OK ?

as i have said elsewhere on this thread im sure they have regreted there decision ever since, and they are victums im sure, but they are clearly either very stupid or very selfish for leaving the children like that. so what does it say about me? that i can see when a parent has been neglectful in there duties as a parent? </p>

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Imagine this scenario she is returned alive and well and then when she is old enough to understand finds that her parents left her in the room so they could get on with there holiday, sure she will think highly of them then.</p>