Manvers riots

A lie gets half way round the world before the truth gets its pants on....

 

Could you outline all legal routes currently available for asylum seekers since Brexit?

Many thanks.

 

Not correct if you are a refugee or asylum seeker. UK signed up to 1951 Refugee Convention.

 

What are labour's plans to change this? Stop the boats and control immigration and asylum claims?

 

Oh it’s illegal… thanks for pointing it out.

What are the safe and legal routes to the uk for people in genuine need of asylum please?

Who are perhaps scared and alone - and wanting to reunite with family or go to a country they have at least a basic knowledge of the lingo?

They are illegal because the previous government abhorrently closed all reasonable legal passageways. And the refugee act we are signed up to actually states most aren’t illegal anyway…

But I suspect you both knew that and choose to ignore it.

As I suspect has redrum.

 

There are absolutely no easy fixes because Brexit absolutely made a balls up of it. There are people on here more qualified to comment, but as far as I recall, asylum seekers could be processed in a matter of weeks - and their claims were examined alongside France and the rest of the EU.

If they were accepted, they could then safely cross the channel to begin their new lives away from the terror and persuction they had faced.

Now, they have to gamble with their lives away from their families by crossing a dangerous body of water in a rubber boat that's massively overcrowded and is one storm away from a tragedy.

Brexit changed all this. That's the root cause. Apart from rejoining the EU, and working together again with France and the rest of Europe, I genuinely can't see an easy solution.

 

There is a process you are supposed to follow, which doesn’t involve arriving on a boat undeclared , but you knew that. Hope that helps.

 

Could you outline all legal routes that asylum seekers currently have to move to the UK?

 

I love the fact that as soon as you say that the uncontrolled illegal immigration is a problem you are labelled a “racist”. Good grief, I’m obviously not in favour of violence of any kind towards anyone, I’m trying to understand why it happened. The uncomfortable truth for the politicised morons on here is that they don’t want to see any problems, and they will sleep walk this county into a far right government as a result. I don’t want that to happen, and the way to stop that happening and to stop the repeat of what we saw in the summer is to address the issues, not just try and label anyone who disagrees as a racist. If I am a racist I guess I should go and tell my daughter’s Thai boyfriend to get out of my house when I’ve finished posting. Clowns.

 

Nobody has called you racist.

You've just been asked to outline all the current legal routes that asylum seekers have to move to the UK.

You've avoided it three times.

 

In Spain, their asylum claims are processed (unlike here) and are either allowed to remain or deported. There are just as many crossing from Morocco as come here from France but the people generally just get on with it.

Here we weaponised incompetence (deliberately not processing asylum claims) resulting in the situation we see today. Don't forget that many of the hotels and detention centres are owned by buddies of the last series of Tory governments and they have made millions out of it at the taxpayer's expense. They are the people to get mad at, not the unfortunate inmates.

 

He can't because unless you came from Ukraine, Afghanistan or Hong Kong, there aren't any.

 

To be fair he was directly labeled right wing and then other people indirectly called his 1st reply racist.
He's right the problem needs addressing easy to say there's no legal route but the government should be doing something to get the backlog down and control the borders. The government said before the came in no more new hotels would be used to house migrants as it was too costly. This is already been broken.

 

That’s some gaslighting right there.

 

There aren't any easy solutions though - due to Brexit. If people gamble with their lives and cross the channel in a rubber boat, then they need to be housed somewhere. I would hope that we've enough compassion as a nation to recognise that humans need shelter (I recognise that we've a huge homeless problem already too).

The current government has been in power for around 6 months. Yes, they've made mistakes. But to clean up the mess of 14 years of Tory rule will take plenty of time, money and effort.

And the solution to the immigration problem is a tough one - and cleverer people than me will hopefully be working on it. But it's a whole lot harder to solve now we aren't in the EU.

 

Nah. Just a question.

And because you know the answer, I won't pursue it any more.

 

The Afghan one is smoke and mirrors and has only accepted 2 people since set up.

 

I get all that, I'm just putting it across that the whole situation is a mess that need sorting even the current government admit that it does and its costing too much.
We're lucky to be born in this country as bad as some make out to be. Ive been all over the world I've seen kids primary school age going through bins outside my hotel because they are hungry and serverly disabled people out begging because i assume there isnt the disability system like here would this happen in England? No, so I can see the attraction of coming even if the person isn't fleeing a war. Unfortunately we can't have the open door policy to immigration or help everyone as a island or services like NHS, prisons schools etc get stretched like they already are.

 

Perhaps you could help me in telling me what the ‘process’ you seem to know about is, since all safe and ‘legal’ routes were closed down in the last government?

No hope about it, that would be helpful. We’d all appreciate it.

I wish you luck in this endeavour. You’ll need it.