Manvers riots

What are labour doing to sort this and get the people out of the hotels?

 

It’s almost as though Brexit being bad for the economy and pretty much everything was also bad for immigration and that we actually inherited less control rather than ‘taking back control’ isn’t it?

Who would have thunk it eh? Well I for one am absolutely flabbergasted that things have turned out as they have…

 

I agree with the first part of your post, but not the end bit. We're far from "full", we take a fraction of immigrants compared to other nations and our benefit system isn't the "golden ticket" that some make it out to be.

I'd wager that our NHS is overwhelmed not due to immigrants, but rather a chronic underfunding and mismanagement. At my local GP's, I've barely seen an immigrant in around 25 years of going there.

 

Most of the immigrants you see in hospitals are caring for indigenous patients.

 

Who called you racist?

I don’t think anything you’ve posted is racist.

I think it’s a load of b.ollocks that buys into the right wing rhetoric that you ironically say you’re wanting to avoid - but it certainly wasn’t racist to my eye.

Not one person on this thread, from what I’ve read, including loony lefties like me, doesn’t want the country to have a better process and control of immigration.

Nobody should be coming over in death trap boats, housed in hotels as we had no plan - and kept there for months at stupid cost as we have no method to process.

It all needs cleaning up. From start to finish.

That doesn’t mean ‘send them all back’ as plenty would want. It means we should have a transparent, fair and legal system, which is accessible to those who need it and which rejects and removes those who don’t, and try to abuse it. We don’t have that.

The fault isn’t with migrants - it’s years of mismanagement of the immigration system, it’s sleepwalking into Brexit without foreseeing any issues in this regard (despite it in my opinion being bleeding obvious from the outset to anyone with half a brain), it’s the constant hiding of this catastrophic governmental failure by the established and agenda’d media; who instead of criticising the fact this was allowed to happen by those we entrusted to run our country, choose to whip up hatred and xenophobia amongst the easily led to blame those that are coming here in the way they are rather than the fact they were forced to in the first place.

 

And yet I got a ban last week for daring to say that I thought it was idiotic to blame our poor performance on the wind when Leyton Orient were coping fine.

But posting right wing racist crap constantly is perfectly fine

 

Alot worse places you could be born trust me and I've never seen kids routing through bins for food. That's poverty. More people you have in the country more using the services. Like I say I hope this new lot sort it because if not I fear we won't see them after the next election.

 

Who deserves a ban on this thread? Who's been racist?

 

I’m from Wath…ashamed of what happened, ashamed at the attempts to sanctify the bloke who committed suicide after he was convicted in the riot, ashamed of what some people say and post on the Wath Facebook page (most often not linked to Wath, but the moderators don’t stop them posting ***** and inflammatory comments).

Figures are interesting that I found on line… only 20% of asylum seekers come via the small boats, so “stopping the boats” will at best reduce the in flow by 20%. Also, of the UK immigration rate of 1.2 million only 8% are asylum seekers.

There is, from latest figures I can find, an estimated 750,000 people in UK who do not have the “right to be here” that is one for every 90 people who are legally in the UK.

What would happen if we gave an amnesty to them and ‘legalised’ them? Well, the price of many goods and services would increase for a start, but they would also start paying taxes and national insurance…and possibly be less likely to be forced into other illegal activities to make ends meet.
Their children would also have an education and further contribute to our economy and society…and reduce the problem of ageing population that the country is facing.
Just a thought…

 

Of course there are worse places to be born - that's why immigration exists in the first place.

But it's not a race to the bottom, and it certainly shouldn't mean we turn our backs on immigrants just because they aren't from round here.

 

I don't recall saying that anyone had been racist in this thread

 

I’m really interested in what reform intend to do?

 

I think he's referring to the Khanistan post.

 

I don't think they're in power at the minute. So that's irrelevant for a start.

 

it isn’t is it. You know that though.

 

Eyup mate, you surely didn’t get banned for post where you said “idiotic”, I remember it?

 

Fair enough.

 

Why does it matter what reform, tory, the green Party or anyone else wants to do about the boats? There not in power. What's labour's plans then?

 

Another reason the current backlog needs sorting and immigration needs to be controlled.

 

Extracts from letters to The Barnsley Chronicle 1947….

“Their own countrymen won’t have them. Why should we?”

“What meals, money, clothes are they to get for free? The serious economic situation in Britain today does not permit so many to get so much for free.”

“We welcome these aliens, we let them come to England to eat our rations and smoke our cigarettes.”

I'm the son of one of those 'aliens.'

Nowt changes