Mason Greenwood

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  1. man

    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

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    I've not "banned him from football" at all, as I've explained. I think if he has no conviction then football clubs should be free to employ him, but they shouldn't employ him.
     
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    And an innocent man has just walked free after spending the best part of two decades behind bars for a crime he didn't commit. The cps makes mistakes so regularly that a guilty or not guilty verdict means very little
     
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    Yes Helen, but the difference there is that had the authorities known what we know now, he would have been.
     
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    The CPS do not lock anyone up. They decide whether to prosecute - the verdict and punishment is a matter for the court. They have clearly decided in this case that there is less than a 50% chance of successfully proving the case.
     
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    And as we know, they get things wrong like they have in this case where there is literally a recording of the crime taking place.
     
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    So why have they dropped the charges?
     
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    Who does judge us the law elected by the people or the media elected by no one.
     
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    The main witness to the case (the now mother of his child) pulled out and therefore the prosecution didn't have a prayer moving forward.

    That's why the charges were dropped.
     
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    A report into the CPS's handling found that the decision not to prosecute Jimmy Savile years before his death was not reasonable and that the CPS had failed to work with the police to build a case.

    Which kind of demonstrates what we say. The cps makes mistakes and the decision not to prosecute, particularly in relation to rape, isn't always the correct the decision and is at times blatantly incorrect.
     
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    Because the victim decided to forgive the multi millionaire abuser and instead start a family with him and get engaged. It's very sad and very common for someone to stay with abuser believing it won't happen again or they can change them.
     
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    So how do you prosecute a case beyond reasonable doubt when the main witness won't testify?
     
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    They had a good prayer as there were documented injuries and an actual recording of the crime taking place.
     
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    There is an established method of challenging such decisions by the CPS via an independent reviewer. Unlikely to be pursued in this case though, given that the complainant no longer wishes to pursue it. What do you do? Convict without evidence? We'd be at a sorry pass then.
     
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    Same way you prosecute murderers when there's no witness. A murder victim doesn't testify in court very often but we still prosecute those crimes but for some reason if a rape victim can't or won't testify they just drop the case and let rapists roam the streets.
     
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    Are you talking about Savile where the independent reviewer DID challenge it. Just too late sadly. Or this case where there is documented evidence?
     
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    I'm getting a hunch that you're trying to shift blame a little, absolutely no reason to mention multi-millionaire in that context when following up with trying to change him or believing it won't happen anymore - regardless of whether she's doing what you're insinuating & is staying with him for the money, shouldn't change anything - he should be locked up for a long time.
     
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    In this case there was a strong possibility of the victim appearing as a defence witness. Alledgedly it was a friend of hers that put the video on her instagram and leaked it.....I know, far fetched, but thats what her Dad claimed and he's never condemned Greenwood.
    The love of the lifestyle that Greenwood brings seems to have outweighed all other considerations within this strangely dysfunctional relationship. Whole things a farce and he was never gonna get convicted once his girlfriend stood by him.
     
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    Reading this thread reminds me of why only 1.3% of alleged rapes ever get prosecuted. Misogyny
     
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    Beyond me how fathers could want their daughters involved with partners like that. Chad Evans girlfriends dad was the same, and I believe he had money so financial considerations wouldnt have done into it.
     
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    If this had been Mason and Harriet from a council estate in Mexborough, him with history of beating her, I'm sure social services would have the kid on a register as soon as it was born. Might not have followed anything up, but they'd be aware.
    Mason and Harriet from Wilmslow, with a Bentley on the drive, they're fine tho.
     
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