May 1st - who is everyone going to vote for?

nope

admittedly that's according to our Labour candidate but it's in an official campaign leaflet, I doubt he's just made it up.

was actually a bit disappointed because the leaflet was mostly what they've done wrong not what Labour would do, but that was one of his criticisms, again using the FA Cup run as a campaign tool was a bit off I thought but I was nonetheless disappointed to realise this about the B.I.G.

 

RE: nope

Oh you're right I misundestood you before.

I still prefer to vote independent. Labour have had it too cosy too long 80 years or so. Time to shake em up. Not with facists though.

 

My understanding is that labour council

had something to do with blocking cryne's first attempt to take the club when a certain labour mayor became chairman.

 

RE: Nationalists

I'd understand that if the BNP had some viable alternatives but they're just a bunch of criminals, rascists and thugs with no real policies.

 

to be fair

and I dont profess to know the ins/outs but I assume BIG did not want to save a private business with public money....?

and how many of Barnsleys public actually care if theres a football club...around 9,000.....

 

RE: Introduced Green Bins - and then sanctioned dumping in Wombwell Woods

Green Bins = Black Bins emptied less under the guise of "recycling"

 

too right

Labour/ B.I.G. at least have proper ideas on what they will do and are genuinely interested in tackling problems

BNP on a local and national level are a bunch of nazis, giving them any power will certainly be detremental to the town at council level, but will also seriously harm the image of Barnsley to other parts of the country. It is sad that Labour have done so much to turn people against them, but why anyone would turn to these racists is frankly beyond me and I have yet to hear a real reason. I did think they simply prayed upon the unintelligent or ignorant, but there are those on here who seem to be neither but still support the BNP, why apparently intelligent people would do so is a mystery to me at least.

 

RE: too right

I think they're trying to con people into believing they're a legitimate political party with real politics. Because they mention immigration a hell of a lot people seem to think that the BNP know something about it, which they don't. It's just rhetoric and scaremongering. If nothing else Britain needs workers from overseas to sustain the economy. And as has been mentioned on the news earlier all this talk of an immigrant crime wave is just bluster.

I was glad to march in Newcastle last weekend against the NF. I was surrounded by ordinary people and families. The NF however were a bunch of skinheads on their way to get pissed up and spread hatred. Nice.

 

the BNP get support because of people like you

denying thare is any kind of a problem with immigration in this country. It is not rocket science. It is beyond you to understand that? You must be walking around with your eyes closed!

 

Anyone but Labour

...and they'll still win by a landslide. Anyone know how to find out who the nearest challenger is for Darton?

 

gerrin Oldred, couldnot agree more

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RE: the BNP get support because of people like you

That's a bit of an immature statment to make really, isn't it.

I genuinely haven't witnessed any problems with immigration, but I'm not denying that some exist. The fact that people are so upset by it is a failing of the system in itself.

All I was doing was pointing out a simple economic fact.

 

RE: the BNP get support because of people like you

its easy to brand them as racist thugs, have you actully read any of their manifesto...?

Serious question BTW.

 

RE: the BNP get support because of people like you

Yes, all of it. Know your enemy and all that.

It doesn't stand up to scrutiny and contains some ideas which are just lunatic.

And have you ever thought why it's so easy to brand them racist thugs?

 

RE: the BNP get support because of people like you

presumably becuase thats what the media want us all to believe.

They state time and time again they are not racists but nationalists.

Which parts of their maifesto doesnt stand up?

 

RE: Introduced Green Bins - and then sanctioned dumping in Wombwell Woods

Green bins = hitting EU targets for reducing landfill, which failure to meet would result in BMBC being fined by the EU. What a great use of our Council Tax that would be.
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What you had the BMBC refuse budget and the task of commissioning a service in the face of these, frankly necessary, targets? What would be your solution?
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RE: the BNP get support because of people like you

They can call themselves what they want, their criminal records state differently.

Which part of the manifesto? Abolition of all taxes, all civil servants to be re-employed as border guards, abandoning stab vests for police in favour of traditional uniforms.

 

RE: Introduced Green Bins - and then sanctioned dumping in Wombwell Woods

bring back coal fires, nowt went into the bin then, only ashes

 

Economic fact?

economic nonsense. How do you judge this to be a fact.

I see you have quoted the Report by ACPO saying that immigrants have not increased crime. You have somehow forgot to mention another report released in the last few weeks which states that the 'legal' immigration alone has brought little or no net economic benefit to the UK. Illegal immigration is another matter on top of that.

Have you read/heard of this report or are you ignorant of it, or merely selective of which reports you quote.

I am not being childish and I am all for a fair and balanced argument. You however quote your non 'facts' and accuse me of being childish. Now that kind of behaviour (not by you) but by people within positions of responsibility is pushing people into the hands of the facists!

I am not a racist. But I do recognise that for the good of everyone the Government must take control of migration one way or the other. The hands off approach is not working.

 

RE: Nationalists

That's why I'd never vote for them. A party needs sensible policies on all issues, so the BNP would have to prove they aren't a one trick pony (immigration), just as the Green Party (environment) had to and failed to do. They also have a long way to go before they convince me and others that they have left their National Front roots behind. Can't see me ever voting for anyone other than Labour anyway. They have always looked after my interests.