Mike Phelan

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  1. cam

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    I would prefer he had both hands if he came to manage us, John.

    But, tbf, not a bad shout.
     
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    I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Think he'd be a very shrewd move for us. He has been linked with the Norwich job (contrary to what Mr X says) so not guaranteed that he'd be interested.

    That's not to say he wouldn't be interested though. I can't see many prem clubs taking a chance on him this season, and I don't see any so called big clubs struggling in the championship other than Wigan - who he was linked with before they appointed Coyle.

    http://bbs.barnsleyfc.org.uk/showth...-good-source-last-night&highlight=Mike+Phelan
     
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  3. Whi

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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Not for me.

    Had it he not been assistant for a couple of years at United, he wouldn't even get a mention.

    Transparent.
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Suppose, in the same way Karanka being assistant for a couple of years at Real Madrid under Mourinho.

    Don't understand the transparent comment mind. Working under Fergie is invaluable, you can't buy experience and knowledge like that.

    Doesn't mean he'd be any good though, as with all appointments is a risk.
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Had the Queen got a pair of ballax, she'd be the King.
     
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    Agreed. Not a bad choice, but i doubt he'd come. My guess would be he'd look at a 'small big club' like as mentioned, Norwich.
     
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  7. Whi

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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Transparent was the wrong term, probably.

    What I meant was that it's impossible to judge how good he may or may not be because there's nowt to judge. He's never managed. At least when ruling Appleton etc out I can do so by looking at his managerial record.

    Karanka is a bit different in that he managed a successful Spanish youth team at national level. And he's foreign. All the rage at the minute. I can see what they're trying to do, Boro. They're trying something new. I was there yesterday, 25,000 fans in to greet the new manager. Reduced tickets. The crowd won the game for them, to be honest. Our club should do something similar when we appoint our new man.


    But if Phelan gets it, I'll back him. But I can't see what it is that I'm judging him on at the moment. Bit like appointing an Hignett, Redfearn or Hassell, only without the BFC connection.

    Not for me.
     
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    Totally beyond me why Mike Phelan is of interest..he's never managed a football club in his life...been assistant to Gary Megson wherever he got the sack...worked with the kids at Man U..and like someone said above doesn't seem to have produced much in the way home grown talent,and to me seems only to have come to any form of prominence as Fergies spokesperson in his battle with the BBC..the fact that he warmed the seat at the side of Fergie doesn't seem to count for much,with the exception of Steve McLaren none of Fergies assistants have done much on their own.
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Whitey who would you like to see in charge?
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    He managed the Man Utd first team.

    He was then Fergie's assistant for five years. I believe that included three league titles and two champions league finals. Not bad experience to have. I see that as totally different to the Barnsley names you just mentioned.

    I'm not convinced either way, but you can't doubt the experience and exposure.

    In terms of Karanka. It was an Under 16 team wasnt it? Pretty much what Noel Blake does now?
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    When? Have I missed somet?
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    First team squad is like the reserves isn't it? I might be wrong on that one and got my wires crossed
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Already admitted I've got my wires crossed, but that comment saying the job isn't hard because the players are good is nothing short of outrageous and disrespectful.
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Certainly not being outrageous or disrespectful (intended or otherwise)...being a small cog in a machine as large as Man U with the success that the club has had, long before Mike Phelan was employed,suggests to me that Fergie had the job in hand already.Perhaps Mike Phelan might turn out to be a good manager..until he actually tries it for himself we will never know..I'd prefer us to employ someone who has a track record of his own.
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Whether intended or not, if I was part of the Man Utd coaching team (to the level of Mike Phelan) and reading this, I would see it as disrespectful. Saying the director or catering could be successful, definitely disrespectful.

    Fergie has often cited how important his backroom team have been to the success. From Kidd, to Quieroz (sp), Walter Smith, Phelan. Look how much credit Flicker gave to Mellon and Scott.

    Also look at the guy who's taken over at Fulham, often quoted as the best coach in football by various players. You don't get the gig at Manchester United under Fergie without knowing you're stuff and being good at your job.
     
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  17. Whi

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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Gary Megson first choice. Danny Wilson second.

    But I do have to admit I was right behind the appointments of Spackman and Hill. So I'm not reight good at this.


    It's the whole strategy/vision of the club I want changing, though. Let's stick with the next bloke. Let's make that clear upon his appointment. We go down, he stays. We're **** next season, he stays. We have to implement a strategy now that focuses on the youth team. Butterfield and Stones are recent examples of it's success. It just needs utilizing, trusting. The last bloke didn't. And believe me, the sighs around the academy complex at around 7pm last night could be heard here in Bradford..
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Personally I have no doubt that he is a very good coach of top class players. But we are not asking him to come to Barnsley to be the coach. If we approached him, we'd be asking him to be the boss, and that is a different role altogether - total chalk and cheese. The coach's responsibility lies only in getting his tracksuit on and practising / setting up with the players to prepare for the next game. It is potentially an insular role and gives you no preparation for the need to know the player market, recruit players who will fit a system, work within a budget, manage player's egos and personalities etc etc etc. He has no experience of any of that whatsoever. Therein lies the risk for me.
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    Sorry, I stopped reading at Gary Megson.
     
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    Re: I suggested Mike Phelan a couple of months ago

    The fact that Fergie has been successful whoever has been at his side in the previous 22 years suggest to me that he knows what he's doing.....as for knowing what you're doing and being good at your job...his job has never been a club manager.
     
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