Minority Report - Chesterfield

I don't see Ibehre as our No1 pick, but I do see him as a cheap and cheerful backup to the No1 pick. I do not see Waring as a No1 pick either, but I think he would be a more expensive No2 than Ibehre.

 

I'd say it's more a case of quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur!

The tape of the Old No 7 meeting (so far as I recall) has Patrick Cryne saying that Danny was told that he would be supported whilever we were not under threat of further relegation. Since that moment had arrived, there had to be a parting of the ways. Part of that logic surely has to be that had we gone down to League Two, we would not only have not attracted extra support, but a sizeable chunk of the existing ST holders would have been unlikely to renew. I was one - and said so on here. So I do think that the club are focused on and appreciative of, existing ST holders.

I'd only further ask: did you feel more 'loved' when The Don was at the helm?

 

It was more he was fed up of being kicked up and down and getting no protection from the ref so when he came over to see he was ok he basically told him to **** off - hence the booking.

 

Really appreciate the comments and report - very thought-provoking. It is clear that LJ wants to play a basic 4-5-1, but with variations, so a key player is the target-man. I am not sure that we would be able to do much better with our budget than Waring and Ibehre, so I would take both of them, if they are available for the coming couple of seasons. I would also keep Hourihane at all costs, but agree that it is the five-man set-up in midfield which is key to getting the best out of him. Wilson brought him in for a basic diamond formation, in which he could play left middle, or in the hole. I think that he is both a creator of goals and a scorer of them, but needs the right structure round him. We will need a player like that next season. The other crucial role is the holding midfielder(s) in front of the back four. If, as touted, we do get Kelly from Oldham, that would give us the sort of player to replace Pearson. we may need two in that position and Scowen could fit in there as well. Full backs and wide players are also crucial to the mobility of the 4-5-1 structure, so that needs to be reviewed. it would be great to bring in O'Sullivan permanently. It will be an interesting close-season, but I can see some predictable movements in and out, perhaps with just one or two surprises. Keep the faith. Build for the future. The future is bright. The future is red.

 

Once again you have had me looking up one of your references. Your knowledge of religion and Latin is to be admired. Nevertheless, I do have a problem with your logic. I think that I have made an assertion with reason. It is simply that you disagree with my reason, just as I disagree with your own.

In answer to your subsequent question, no, I felt no more loved when Don was in charge. But then again, I do not expect to receive love from the football club that I support. That link between supporting a club and being owed something as a result is a modern emotion that seems to be felt by the travelling fans. I have not travelled for many years, but when I did so, it was because I want to and because enjoyed doing so. In my first season as a travelling fan, I saw the team lose 6-3 at Wrexham, 7-2 at Bradford Park Avenue and 5-4 at Luton Town, all of them teams that have subsequently spent time below league level. There was never any suggestion that we be refunded our cost of entry because the team had played poorly, and we never expected it. I am not someone who expects to be rewarded for turning up at games. I am someone who is prepared to take the rough with the smooth, because that is the way that it has always been as a Barnsley supporter.

The point that I made about supporters who are willing to withdraw their support was made because it is those supporters who are driving the board in their decision-making process, and the decisions to replace managers every 12 months or so is so obviously wrong. It is my view that there have been too many changes of manager, and that the cost of doing so along with the disruption to long term planning and team building are the main reason for the long term decline in the club's performance.

Now, I can understand the argument that the board should have more backbone, and should have the strength of character to resist this financial pressure. However, I have no confidence that they will do things any differently next time. Sadly, I view all the new liaison groups and interest group meetings that have been set up recently by Ben as mere window dressing. When the results are poor the board will lift the drawbridge, withdraw from criticism and make a decision based solely upon short term financial considerations.

To summarise my position in just one sentence, I am frustrated that my patience and long term view is constantly undermined by the impatience and short-termism of the minority, who are prepared to exert financial pressure in order to get their own way over a weak board of directors.

 

Second last para spot on.

 

I am so pleased that you fond my comments thought provoking because that is precisely my aim. My thoughts after games are my opinions and are no more valid than any other opinion, but if they stimulate thoughts in others, even if those thoughts are not in accord with my own, I have in a sense achieved my aim. The game is much more complex than many viewers appreciate and I enjoy thinking and talking about the complexities of the game, if only to give me a different view of it. Thank-you for your comments.

 

fond? edit.

 

Thank u