Minority Report - Swindon Town

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  1. Red

    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    If there was an outstanding past record that supported your view that being impatient, sacking managers and changing staff and players was the way to proceed, I would be right behind you. But during the last 15 years, the facts seem to prove otherwise.

    During our time in the Championship, the outstanding reason for our lack of success was that managers had a much lower budget for player wages than most of the competition. Yet, we ignored the evidence, and when the fans stopped going, we sacked the manager. Can you really think of no better way of spending a quarter of a million pounds per year than sacking the manager.

    Even so, I could possibly justify the decisions if we were sacking hopeless cases. But if you look at our league you find Rochdale in 6th place on a fraction of our budget, Bury in 9th place following promotion last year. I do not think that Danny Wilson went from a god to a fool either. Those do not look like the records of failed managers. They look like the records of managers who had the odds stacked against them and who were judged too quickly by impatient fans and administrators.

    As for the point that your manager may well leave you if he is successful, so you may as well sack him first. The logic simply does not compute.
     
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    James Bree will undoubtedly be a good player, but he has spent a long time injured and needs more games to get back to his best. The same can also be said of Ryan Williams.
     
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    I could argue the vast amount of patience and time allowed to Simon Davey backs up my thoughts that giving any tom dick or harry a load of leeway doesnt make him the right man for the job. And lets not forget, we arnt the only club to have made changes to our management. There are good examples of new managers and bad ones.


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    It was getting rid of the Manager what kept the club up in the Championship for so long, new manager syndrome of going on a good run usually was the difference.
    Would you have stuck with Davey, Hill, Flitcroft or Wilson for longer because I wouldn't. I actually believe PC was correct to get rid of them all.
     
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    There have been instances in the past when I was in favour of a manager being sacked, but as a general rule I do not added my voice to those asking for a manager to go.

    I am consistent in my calls to others to be patient. There must be a better way a better way for Mr Cryne to spend his money than paying manager after manager to simply go away. It just does not make any sense to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.
     
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    I agree. As things stand I think the greater likelihood is that LJ will be poached away than we fire him.
     
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    Whilst I agree with you I still think there should be a long term plan in place like Swansea.

    A manager should be brought in with the same beliefs & aims of the club rather than just getting the best manager they feel is available
     
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    Andy Ritchie got us promoted following a series of short term managers and sackings.
     
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    Boom. That was the head of a nail being smashed.
     
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    I think that's the plan, hence the head coach title, rather than manager.
     
  11. Red

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    Good point!
     
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    Maybe the best way would be to stop appointing poor managers in the first place?


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