Mr Joseph Barton

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Reds Fan, Jul 24, 2021.

  1. TitusMagee

    TitusMagee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2018
    Messages:
    8,599
    Likes Received:
    13,262
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Silkstone Common
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Exactly, that's why it is "beyond reasonable doubt" and not the civil standard ("on the balance of probabilities").
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  2. Don

    Donny-Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2018
    Messages:
    5,766
    Likes Received:
    7,780
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    @JamDrop pointed out the very good reason for only trying on the evidence presented. (although, as has been mentioned, that law has changed a bit since the 90’s)

    But I’d like to point you towards legal Twitter, where you’ll discover that junior barristers on legal aid cases can easily be earning less than NMW as they’re self employed and the fixed fee system is critically underfunded.
     
    Andy Mac likes this.
  3. dreamboy3000

    dreamboy3000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2005
    Messages:
    53,975
    Likes Received:
    21,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    DB3K Towers
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Redblueunwhite likes this.
  4. Deafening Silence

    Deafening Silence Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2021
    Messages:
    5,039
    Likes Received:
    6,805
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
  5. Red

    RedVesp Guest

    Redhelen and dreamboy3000 like this.
  6. Dav

    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2017
    Messages:
    3,345
    Likes Received:
    6,144
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hemingfield
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    But he's heard of Voltaire and been on Question Time so that makes him super smart.
     
    JLWBigLil, Redhelen and wakeyred like this.
  7. wak

    wakeyred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    8,953
    Likes Received:
    7,560
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    the clues in my imaginative online moniker
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    No one goes into criminal law to get rich thats for sure, my daughter is going down family law route for that very reason - there's no money in criminal, and whilst you might think its mercenary at the end of the day we all want to be compensated for renting our time out in whatever job we do, including the law.
     
    Donny-Red likes this.
  8. arabian_ian

    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2013
    Messages:
    13,344
    Likes Received:
    14,519
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Broughty Ferry
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Does he still have his French accent?
     
    DavidCurriesMullet and RedVesp like this.
  9. Red

    RedVesp Guest

    Non.
     
  10. Red

    Reds Fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2015
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    2,792
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
  11. red

    red24/7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2015
    Messages:
    6,763
    Likes Received:
    6,799
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    He is just a bit thick,amazing how many people, especially managers who try to use big words end up looking a bit thick, when the word does not fit,in this case I can not get really upset ,unlike his assault on Stendel as that was thuggish behaviour while this is just thickness
     
    TorontoRed and Redhelen like this.
  12. Fea

    Fearless Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2006
    Messages:
    1,144
    Likes Received:
    691
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    One of the definitions of the word Holocaust is mass destruction or slaughter, especially by fire. That’s with a small h. The Holocaust is a name for that specific historical event, with a capital H.

    I can’t stand the bloke, and anybody with any sensitivity would have just said the defence capitulated or something. He should apologise for any unintended offence, but he probably won’t.
    Personally and unfortunately I think he’s used a word that does cover what he meant - that’s probably why he added the other words to describe it, to avoid anybody misconstruing it.
    Unlucky, Joseph!
     
  13. Redarmy87

    Redarmy87 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2018
    Messages:
    4,917
    Likes Received:
    6,857
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I don't think that's the case. I think he knows exactly what he's doing. He likes to shock and he likes controversy. I'm not really sure what he hopes to achieve besides adding to his rap sheet. He doesn't particularly anger me, I just see him as a child, a clown, with a big ego. I don't think he cares what people think of him (as long as they are shocked or annoyed by him). It must be quite a sad existence, to always be in that frame of mind. I hope he gets help eventually.
     
    red24/7 likes this.
  14. Don

    Donny-Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2018
    Messages:
    5,766
    Likes Received:
    7,780
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    You think he beat his wife up just for the ‘controversy’?

    And all the other violence? Just to shock people?

    I would suggest that would take a level of self control he clearly hasn’t got.
     
    DannyWilsonLovechild likes this.
  15. Dav

    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2017
    Messages:
    3,345
    Likes Received:
    6,144
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hemingfield
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    If he did the violent stuff for attention, then in my opinion I'd be locking him away. Textbook sociopathic tendencies, which only get worse the more an individual is provided a grander stage to perform on.
     
    Redhelen and Donny-Red like this.
  16. Redarmy87

    Redarmy87 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2018
    Messages:
    4,917
    Likes Received:
    6,857
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I think he's out of control. I think these latest comments and things like the tunnel incident are feeding his ego, it's like child's play to him. The violence against his wife/stubbing cigars out in people's eyes etc is because he's out of control and a nasty *******. I don't think he does everything for the controversy, I think sometimes he just acts out and doesn't see the subsequent controversy as a bad thing necessarily.
     
    Redhelen likes this.

Share This Page