Murphy thoughts

I don't think Daniel would have accepted relegation under him and therein lay the problem!

 

And I did, my opening comment was the most important of all imho. If anyone’s going to this supporters meeting it would be nice to get clarity on tbh.

I’ll say it again, Where is all the international investment these owners crowed about so vocally on purchase 2 1/2 years ago? As it was this income that was meant to help progress us under their stewardship was it not?

As without this and without the owners personal funding, I fail to see how they will adequately progress Barnsley FC as a footballing force. It won’t happen under this current ‘plan’ without absolute footballing miracles occurring as far as I’m concerned.

P.s, apologies for the ‘dear chap’, force of habit!

 

great post and probably reflective of the view of the majority of the 11000 who go every other week; minus the majority of the 800 or so who post on here with nothing but criticism of , not only the past ( some of which is justifiable), but also the future.

It's the way it is. Them heads and minds are not for turning.

 

Eventually by default this plan will work. The plan was brought in before the 2014/15 season by Patrick Cryne when he signed Hourihane, Berry and Winnall. Scowen followed in January.Back then the club was spending £250,000 on players.

The club was promoted in the 2015/16 season and the club signed Bradshaw and Moncur for £600,000 and £500,000 there was a progression. Mowatt was signed in January for £600,000.

Before the 2017/18 season the club shelled out £1 million for Mcgeehan and £900,000 for Thiam. Then in January signed Kieffer Moore for £750,000. There was a natural progression.

Before this season 13 players have been brought in most on long term contracts with the club paying £1.2 million for Thomas. £1million for Wilkes and £1million for Schmidt.

The club is progressing on and off the pitch. Had Stendel been relieved of his duties earlier I've no doubt the club wouldn't be in this predicament. I won't have a go at the board for not spending money just because we find ourselves in the bottom three and suddenly the players that were signed aren't everybodys cup of tea.

I'm sure looking back the board might of done things differently last summer but that's in the past. What I do know is Collins, Halme, Chaplin were signed on long term deals as was Wilks and even if the worst happens and we are relegated we're very well placed with length of contracts to get good money for anybody that should be sold and replace some if not all of them for a promotion push.

 

Hmm, I’m glad your sure on this as if we are relegated again as seems likely right now I just can’t see it myself.
Absolutely no guarantees we’ll get automatic promotion from league 1 again at all.
Schmidt and wilks will probably draw a loss, especially if hull drop, think you’re highly optimistic myself and have well and truly bought into the owners plan which is commendable given the club’s immediate footballing circumstances tbh.

I for one, cannot think of another example of this plan working in the English football league without extra financial investment backing it up.

I stand to be corrected however.

 

more common sense and logic. think this must be a parallel universe.

 

See the pro-owners support have congregated.

Like I say, it will be a definite footballing first if Barnsley FC achieves success purely on the plan and course these owners are sailing at the moment without proper financial backing or the hitherto still to be substantiated ‘international investment’.

We’ll see.....

 

Surely that reinforces the question?
If he wouldn’t accept relegation he would have either had to get it to work(stay up) or resign. Either of those options saves the Board money

 

So let's not keep talking about mistakes the board made last Summer because it's "in the past", but it's fine to talk about not sacking Stendel sooner as that isn't?
A warning for Struber. If the club & some of our fans were happy to throw Stendel under the bus just a few weeks after steering the club to such a record breaking promotion winning season, it doesn't bode well for you whether we avoid relegation or not. After all, any success you may or may not have achieved will quickly be consigned to history (as it was for Stendel) if it becomes inconvenient and doesn't follow their insistence on knee jerk reactions to problem solving (problems the club played a part in creating).

 

He had plans to try to make it work but unfortunately we ll never know for definite. However, the way he's approached things in Scotland makes me feel certain that if we could be kept up he,'d have achieved it.

 

I've just read Dane's interview in the Chronicle. I'm impressed. I don't think he's told us anything we didn't know already. However, I think they just see relegation as a bump in the road as they did last time. I think there is a genuine long term plan otherwise why spend anything at all? I like the way the club aren't putting timescales on things.

Judging by the vitriol they get it would just be used as another stick to beat them with. I must admit I'm dubious as to why multi-billionaires need to wait and do things methodically but if that's how they roll I'm happy to wait.

 

I'm not a fan of this board, but to suggest they don't care what division we're in is daft.

They haven't intentionally made a balls of things.

 

I would hazard a guess, it’s as simple as if there’s a timescale you can be hold to account more.
Whilst that’s not a bad thing, given the reaction by some it’s not a surprise they might want to avoid.

I just watched the press conference from when the Owners were introduced and the things they kept saying over and over again were:
Not going to do anything silly
Like the way the club is run
Small steps to gradually improve.

Obviously before people jump in to point out, other things were said but one of these (or versions of) were repeated after almost every question.

 

One of the things you have been consistent about is the international investment promised.
I have just watched the press conference and didn’t hear once this promised, what I did hear was using their experience to expose Barnsley (both club and town) to an international market, but I got the impression they were talking about exposure not money.
Was it this press or another where you heard it?

 

Couple of questions I'd like to know the answer to are: Should we get relegated have the club the ******** to turn down a bid for the likes of a Wilks, Chaplin or Woodrow and say you're staying put to try and get the club back to the Championship?

Will they be exercising the option on Alex Mowatt and listen to offers should he turn down his new deal?

 

it's a very very small minority congregation on here but football eh.... we all worship at the same church whichever congregation we're in.

 

Ok, ‘promised’ was a bad choice of words but exposure to an international market infers a monetary income to be invested from said venture does it not? Otherwise what would be the point in marketing the club internationally? It would be a total waste of effort and resource in that case surely? Well? Where is this exposure to the international market at at this point in time exactly?
Nothings been mentioned of this since yet it was publicly announced when they took over in that press conference where it was said it would aid in the owners ‘plan’.

As I know your in the pro-owners camp I don’t expect you or others of your ilk to see my POV hence your thinly veiled attempt to rubbish my opinion.

 

Had the club released a statement after Stendel's departure with a few platitudes in it would the fact still be that he wasn't Barnsley F.C head coach anymore? I said it at the time. I had no problem with the club sacking him on footballing reasons alone. The statement as it turns out didn't thank him for his efforts because there was and is a legal case lingering on.

I doubt anyone would have been fooled by the club putting out a hundred word essay. The fact remained he had been sacked. You don't sack someone you're about to jump into bed with.

I do realise a lot of Stendel supporters still are incensed by his departure.

 

I thought the statement was for legal reasons?

Or was it out of respect for Daniel?

We've been told both at different times. Hopefully this will be clarified next Tuesday by Mr Murphy.

 

I only speak for myself, no one else.
After such a successful season, it is my opinion that Stendel should have been backed properly with the type player he wanted within the club's financial constraints, ones capable of continuing to play the pressing style he provided (and insisted upon by the board) for the Championship. It is my belief that his success should have meant he'd banked a certain level of goodwill from them, too. It's obvious this wasn't the case. Up to last Summer, I backed the board 100%. But since then, their actions and refusal to communicate properly with the fan base has, sadly, turned me against them. This is something I didn't do lightly. I've been a fan since 1968, a season ticket holder since 1969, sticking with the club through bigger problems than the current one. It's not in my nature to flounce away from the club at the drop of the hat, simply because I'm not getting exactly what I want exactly when I want it. But I've never felt as disconnected with the club as I do now. I'm not telling others how they should think, what actions they should take. By the same token, I don't take on board criticism from others, who paint themselves as 'better' fans.
I accept others hold a different viewpoint and I have no problem with that. However, if they're entitled to air their opinions on the BBS, then so am I.