Murphy thoughts

I still can't quite get my head around that 21 word statement legally an added bit thanking him for his time at the club surely wouldnt have had much bearing?

 

I don't think as much would be under the microscope were the club higher up the table.

 

I don't know the facts but if he was trying to force a move away and sounding out other members of the coaching team the club were right to act. In my view as harsh as it sounds would that constitute a thankyou?

 

I don't know all the facts, either. Nor do any other posters. But it's my belief that if the club had backed Stendel, like they rightly did with Struber in January, then we would have performed better at the start of the season and Daniel wouldn't have looked for a way out. But they didn't and we've spent the vast majority of the season struggling in the relegation places.
I think it's pathetic to blame Daniel Stendel for our problems, yet jump through hoops to exonerate those running the club from their responsibilities for such a poor campaign.

 

They were too busy keeping in touch with Struber.

 

Yes thank him for last season. Dont tell club employees they cant attend his leaving do, I have a feeling that this is common, but the club have used it as a way of trying to get the fans on board which backfired big time. I also understand that a close relative was terminally ill around that time too ( may have happened after he left but definitely was an issue before Christmas when he took over at Hearts) Just struck me there was something more than just the sacking that got him so upset.

I know I probably come across as very pro Stendel, but obviously he's not perfect, he will have made wrong decisions during his time at Barnsley However you cant get away from the fact that he gave us a very enjoyable and successful season last season.

 

I don't think the football was the same after Winkler left. I'm grateful for his efforts last season. However, I thought that some of the victories after Moore's injury were workmanlike. I thought we ground it out more towards the end. This surprised me the way Stendel set up at the beginning of this season because we were wide open in defence as opposed to last season.

 

Winkler was never in charge though, and not much changed for Huddersfield so I'm not sure I agree with that. I think because Winkler spoke the better English it was assumed he was more pivotal than he necessarily was.

 

Ahh bless feeling a little sensitive are we?
It wasn’t a thinly veiled anything it was a genuine question because you might have seen it somewhere else, hence why I asked so I could understand your POV better.
Oh and for the record I am neither in the pro or anti camp. I am very much a fence sitter as I have said many times. I have criticised them and I have also defended them.

 

Possibly the best and fairest view of the owners I have seen in here in along time.
What I mean by that is it is apparent your view has been built from your experience during their time.
People can have their opinions on some of the things you’ve said but nobody should have any issues about why you feel that way.

 

There goes your street cred, mate!

 

In relation to International exposure, in answer to your question about what it means, it clear is about interpretation, to me International exposure means about making Barnsley more well known around certain parts of the world, not directly about money.
Now that statement of course comes with a caveat because clearly the reason why you would do such a thing is to make the asset more valuable long term.
So that then brings it to timescales you clearly think 2 years is sufficient, I believe from past work history it takes longer than that but that is all about opinions

 

I identify with a lot of this, and I suspect many others do too, in particular the transition from 100% supportive to increasingly disconnected from the ownership since the summer.

I'm also increasingly frustrated with how factional everything seems to become when the ownership is discussed on the BBS. We all have differing views, but the language is becoming increasingly divisive around it.

I've sat on the same row at Oakwell as 55&Counting for at least 20 years now, and he's undoubtedly one of the people I respect most among the fanbase. He's as far from being a 'happy clapper' as I am from being someone who's trying to find fault in everything the owners do, yet it feels increasingly like we, and others, are being marked into two polarised camps as if there's no middle ground between them. I'm low-profile and anonymous enough not to be targeted directly within it, but it feels like there's a determined point-scoring effort going on between two factions, who are fundamentally opposed to each other.

In reality, we're all generally as frustrated as each other with how this season has gone and still want to see us find a way out of the relegation mire. Looking around Oakwell during the game tomorrow I doubt you'd be able to distinguish a member of one 'camp' from the other.

 

Yes opinions, we all differ in them that’s for sure.

Ah but these owners are all meant to be established business people whom already have dipped their fingers and toes into football before us so surely there would’ve been some in-roads into this area of marketing already, no? Why mention it otherwise?
If the intent wasn’t/isn’t there to try and tap into international marketing/revenue streams (call them what you will) as was alluded from the beginning then they would’ve done well to not say anything along these lines and get supporters hopes up from the off don’t you think? Given that they also said they weren’t going to do ‘anything crazy’.
This way, should anything come of this supposed international exploration to help achieve a better version of their ‘plan’, they wouldn’t look as daft as they appear right now, rather the opposite and would present themselves as rather more astute.
Afterall, as this train crash of a season has panned out so far, these owners are certainly experts in silence when it suits them to be

 

It's like Romeo and Juliet

 

....apart from the fact that I love him more than those two could ever love each other!

 

Great shout.
Opinions will differ. Lead to arguments. Become vitriolic. If getting out of hand. Opinions on players. Games and most football related issues. Are just that. The things I struggle with are opinions that are tended to be used as fact. With no real back up. If those opinions/fact come to the fore. Fair enough.
Eg. A lot of rumours. Some people treat as fact. 90% are ********.
I have no doubt. As you say. We all want the best for our club.
Ps I’m always right. My wife says so.
I once thought I was wrong. But I then woke up.