My thoughts on a new coach.

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  1. Ton

    Tonjytyke Well-Known Member

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    This is a very interesting thread, but I think we forget, the objective of the club is to sell players for a profit, not necessarily to win games. Once this fact finally sinks in for us fans, we’ll see that none of the speculation matters a jot. The enormity of that fact is just so mind boggling to get your head round that I think we simply ignore it!! Let’s be clear, as a football club WE’RE NOT REALLY TOO BOTHERED ABOUT WINNING GAMES There, feels better doesn’t it.
     
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    Disagree with which part ?
    The situation with Carlos was true , he told them which players within reason he wanted to keep and bring in .
    He had a disastrous start at Hudds as the players weren’t reacting to his tactics , once he’d established the players he wanted snd had a pre season with them he took them to th play offs .
    I don’t think the players were just put in front of him and asked to mould a team like our coaches are , I think he had a say on most of them .
    I don’t think we’d have got to playoffs without Val insisting on bringing in Clinton who was recommended by his mate and Dike who was recommended by Dane .
    The plan needs to and imo has to have room to manoeuvre in the coaches favour .
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    This isn’t really how our recruitment works when Paul Conway isn’t running the show.

    Like most clubs, the coach gives the brief, the recruitment team find the realistic options, and then the coach is part of the decision process.

    I can’t remember exactly as it was a passing comment, but Poya pushed through the Bassi or Quina signing over different options. Struber and Val got players they wanted too. Stendel was probably one that got less than those, but he was a big fan of Sibbick and Thomas and pushed those deals through.

    We don’t rely on stats alone and we’re not really working that differently to other clubs. I think we just talk about it a lot more.
     
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    ''The plan needs to and imo has to have room to manoeuvre in the coaches favour .''

    I disagree with that. I can think of one very high profile club that's signed on the manager's whim and whilst spending (transfer fee/ wages) more than anyone else declined over a 10 year period. Also the experience did them well in the summer.
     
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    I don't think Colin would last month at Oakwell under the current ownership before he decided life was too short to put up with rank ineptitude at CEO and Board level
     
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    There's only one man for the job and that is NEIL WARNOCK just look at promotions from the lower leagues and he is a fighter he'll get the players playing the proper way
     
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    That’s not what Hecky hinted at when He left and what the owners have said in interviews imo.
     
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    Marlon Well-Known Member

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    There’s always an exception in any system , I’m going on overall .
     
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    Do you have links to where the owners have said otherwise? Gauthier, Dane and Khaled have described it exactly as I did, so I’d be keen to see the other soundbites
     
    Loko the Tyke, Apr 24, 2022
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