My thoughts on yesterday's match

PS, I disagree about the pig, as my avatar may give away!

 

Thanks John. I'm nearly on the half way line ESL and it was as blatant an attempt to put someone out of the game as those two footed leg breakers we see nearly every week

 

There is a close divide between genius & madness. Some may say they are the same thing, it is all a question of perspective often.
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Reach's challenge was nothing more than a foul and it was punished with a free kick. A referee has to assume that everyone on the field of play is fit to be there. He has to assume that an injured player, even a very brave injured player, will be substituted for his own safety. The fact that Yiadom was allowed to play on was a mistake. If he had been in the dressing room instead of on the field, the foul is a foul on Scowen and nothing more than that.

 

That is why it was so cynical though.

 

You must sit very near us then!

 

Missing the point entirely. Reach knew how vital Yiadom is to our team and he knew that one more dislocation would see him subbed. It was the most cynical, disgusting foul of the whole match. He deserves retrospective punishment for it. It was MUCH more than a routine foul.

 

Yiadom was not fit. His shoulder would have popped again the next time he hit the floor. It was a matter of time.

 

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With respect, I do not think that I have missed the point at all.

 

May come & shake yer hand, if I go tomorrow. Not sure yet, have a work related meeting up north, but hoping to make it!

I don't have a S/T, but usually sit with a big group of mates that do, about 5 rows back, around seats 90 upwards.
They have a bunch of kids tickets that are rarely taken up, so I can nearly always sit with them.

 

Maybe, but it was ungentlemanly conduct. Not a phrase much used these days admittedly. Maybe I'm showing my age.
Wouldn't have liked one of our lads to do it, put it that way.

 

Gamesmanship for me. Doesn't matter who does it.

There is no doubt in my mind that referees consistently give decisions in favour of the "big" clubs and against "small" clubs. The perfect illustrations for me are these penalty decisions not given; Brian Howard at Anfield and Andy Liddle at Old Trafford. If either of these had been a Liverpool/Man U player they would have been given. Also The Oakwell game against Liverpool. Can you think of any bad decisions in our favour against a "big" club? I'm struggling.

 

I was listening to talk sport a few weeks back, and an ex pro, might have been claridge? Said he was in no doubt that the decisions go the way of the bigger club.

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The two footed tackle has been referenced on here today, the inference being that the tug on Yiadom's arm was as bad as a two footed tackle. I have two points to make. Where does it say in the rules that a referee must make allowances for an existing injury to a fouled player. My second point is that if the roles had been reversed, Reach had the shoulder injury and Yiadom was doing the tugging, I would have no trouble justifying my position that a foul was sufficient punishment. Would others be able to justify Yiadom being sent off and receiving a 3 game ban.

 

Late on in the game, Kent began a run down the right but Bannan got between Kent and the ball. As the players continued to follow the ball, Bannan tripped and fell to the ground for whatever reason. The ref waved play on and the subsequent cross led indirectly to our late goal. I was a long way from the ball and could not tell if Bannan had been tripped by Kent. Of course, all the Wednesday players thought that he had been. Now if you have a Wednesday shirt on, you see the incident one way and if you have a Barnsley shirt on you see it another. The ref has a split second to decide. He went with us, but if you are a Wednesday fan, he made a mistake which indirectly cost them the win. You cannot please everybody. He did not favour the bigger team, he did not favour the team that is higher in the league, he might have favoured the home team, but he might have just given the correct decision. I do not know for certain because I did not have a good view, so I rely on the ref.

 

Mr Friend was way, way too lenient all the way through. As I said in my report he ignored their persistent fouling in the first half when a card or two would have made them think twice about hacking our players down every time we ran with the ball. Some, including the Yorkshire Post reporter, said he had a decent game. I suppose from the point of view that he didn't give the away side a penalty when a foul has been committed outside the box (ie Leeds) then ok - he had a decent game. On the other hand I still stand by my opinion on the Reach/Yiadom incident. If a professional referee cannot see that as blatant gamesmanship/downright cheating then he is in the wrong job.

 

I thought Mr Friend refereed a very difficult local derby with a Winnall undercurrent very well. He spoke to Winnall about his celebration, which was all he could do because Winnall did not leave the confines of the playing area. He told him to cam down and he booked Winnall for repeat offending. He got it right.

Yiadom should have been withdrawn much earlier. In order to determine whether he got that decision right you have to imagine a Yiadom tug on an injured Reach. I would still have been arguing the a foul was sufficient punishment for the offence. You would presumably have been arguing for Yiadom to be sent off and a 3 game ban.

 

Quite agree, but this was surely a very marginal decision which maybe could have gone either way, the examples I gave were blatant and were quite simply and unexplainably wrong. This is not only a problem in the English leagues, I watched the Granada vs Barcelona game last night where if anything I would have been biased in favour of Barca (I'd support any team that has a chance of stopping Real Madrid from winning anything) and the ref gave several dodgy decisions in favour of Barca and virtually nothing to Granada.

 

Unfortunately being supported by that wazzock has blown my credibilty out of the water....